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to think Rotherham council have lost the plot over UKIP foster-carers?

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londonone · 24/11/2012 09:23

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I really really hope there is more to this than is being reported, otherwise I am utterly speechless.

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willowberry · 27/11/2012 10:09

Shocked and horified by some of the opinions on here.
There are children in this country in abusive, neglectful, unloving homes and social workers want to take them out straight away, but can't because they have to jump through so many hoops, leaving the children vulnerable to more abuse/neglect.
These three children were being cared for in an exemplary way, but have been removed due to leftist ideology from a labour run council.
The children have now been split up from their carers and now each other. Wonderful.
As long as their 'multicultural needs' are met though- because that's the main thing. . . . .

bradywasmyfavouriteking · 27/11/2012 10:22

begonia they are members of Ukip, they'd didn't just vote for them.

I can't believe that people don't realise what potential damage can be done by a foster cater that disagree with a child having certain rights in this country.

Nancy66 · 27/11/2012 10:24

Yes, far better that they have been torn apart.

PessaryPam · 27/11/2012 10:28

Joyce Thacker:-

hat4uk.wordpress.com/2012/11/26/rotherham-childcare-boss-in-ukip-row-presided-over-paedophile-epidemic/

It's not safe to assume the SS and council know what they are doing and are acting in the best interests of the children. Their only interest is their own.

YerMaw1989 · 27/11/2012 10:30

I am very disturbed that UKIP would foster foreign children to begin with and question what their motives are.

yes they did the right thing.

Abra1d · 27/11/2012 10:33

If, God forbid, I were to lose my children I would prefer, as a white, Catholic Tory, have them brought up by a black Labour-voting atheist couple who were warm, loving and decent then have them removed because their ethnic/religious/cultural 'rights' were being infringed.

tiggytape · 27/11/2012 10:35

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bradywasmyfavouriteking · 27/11/2012 10:36

this bloke did them Ukip a favour today

Apparently its ok for peoplewho are anti immigration to look after immigrant children but not gay couples.

This is why people worry about Ukip members fostering children. Because their candidates are often bigots

Dawndonna · 27/11/2012 10:40

Right to life
Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
Right to liberty and security
Freedom from slavery and forced labour
Right to a fair trial
No punishment without law
Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence
Freedom of thought, belief and religion
Freedom of expression
Freedom of assembly and association
Right to marry and start a family
Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms
Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property
Right to education
Right to participate in free elections
This is what UKIP want to take apart. It is the Human Rights Act.

Nancy66 · 27/11/2012 10:44

the human rights act has been horribly abused for years though - when it reaches the stage where you can't boot murderers out of the country then it's time to rethink things

Orwellian · 27/11/2012 10:48

Interesting. Even the Guardian is noticing that many Labour voters are switching to the UKIP because they no longer have faith in the lies of Lib/Lab/Con.

www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/nov/26/ukip-party-coming-in-from-cold

Read the comments. Many interesting facts about UKIP, such as them wanting to take low earners out of the tax system altogether and having a non-racism mission statement written into their constitution. Sounds like all the other parties on major smear overdrive because they feel threatened by UKIP.

BegoniaBampot · 27/11/2012 10:50

But how do you know these people personally support all of the UKIPS policies? I'm sure many folk vote and are members of a party but don't agree with every policy. Why do you think many parties have so much in fighting and many members hold different ideas as to what these policies should be.

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bradywasmyfavouriteking · 27/11/2012 10:56

No tiggy they are bigots because they are screaming saying these foster caters should get their kids back however gay couples fostering kids is abuse.

How do they work that out? Who from Ukip has come out and fought those comments made by Winston McKenzie? Who has distanced themselves from it?

They are bigots because while saying you can discriminate on political party, you can discriminate on sexuality.

Orwellian · 27/11/2012 11:02

Just read that the children have been split from each other.

I guess to the leftist it is more important for siblings to suffer psychologically and physically, be separated from their kin, moved from one care home to another and vulnerable to all the horrors that care homes are well known for as long as their sacred cow of "multiculturalism" is protected by all means.

Abra1d · 27/11/2012 11:04

UKIP don't campaign on gay rights. So why should they make that an issue? It's like saying the SNP are bigots because they don't campaign in favour of gay rights.

AmberLeaf · 27/11/2012 11:06

Orwellian

They will be with another foster family, there aren't many care homes about these days.

It was always highly likely that they would be split at some point as is the norm with large sibling groups.

tiggytape · 27/11/2012 11:11

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willowberry · 27/11/2012 11:14

But Amber, they were all together and have had that time cut short, for what? The fact they may have been split eventually is beside the point. . .

bradywasmyfavouriteking · 27/11/2012 11:14

abra no its not. Not campaigning for gay rights and calling gay foster parents abusers are 2 different things.

You have UKIP Claiming that all that should matter is if these kids were being cared for correctly. Then another UKIP member calling it abuse to allow gay couples to foster/ adopt.

That doesn't make sense.

Can you explain how Ukip can say your political choices shouldn't be taken into consideration but your sexuality should?
Why, if the foster parents are gay, is the how they care for the choke not the most important thing?

Nancy66 · 27/11/2012 11:19

A sizeable proportion of Labour's heartland, older generation voters will be racist and homophobic.

An awful lot of working-class 60+ people are.

Pretty sure they'd be allowed to foster though.

MincyPie · 27/11/2012 11:20

Tiggy- McKenzie is apparently UKIP's culture spokesman and candidate for the Croydon North By-election. He is very a representative of UKIP.

bradywasmyfavouriteking · 27/11/2012 11:21

tiggy and what have UKIP done to distance themseleves from this homophobic candidate?

As I said before the reason people have a problem with Ukip is because of people like him. I never called the whole party bigots.

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