Which conspiracy theories do you believe?

[RoseWylie]

Me-

Covid came from a Chinese lab.
Epstein's death was engineered by a third party, whether by murder or by compromising the suicide watch.
Lucy Letby's conviction isn't sound and was affected by institutional motivation to find a cause for babies dying other than negligence and squalor across the department. (FAOD I have no idea whether she is innocent or guilty.)

She died because the driver was pissed and had not been trained to drive a bullets proof car which is very heavy. Diana didn't wear a seat belt which would have saved her and Dodi. The decision to leave the Ritz was spur of the moment so no time to plan a 'murder by car crash'. The so called 'establishment' were not that bothered by her, she was becoming quite unpopular in the time before her death.

Was she in on it by not wearing her seat belt? And was her driver told to drink and speed?

Also, I don’t see how such an assassination could have happened without the collusion of the French government in view of the fact that the accident was investigated there. And why on earth would they go along with that?

Besides, someone would have whistle blown about it by now.

I would have given more credence to the theory if the accident had taken place in the UK, but it didn’t.

In general, most conspiracy theories rely on a touching belief in the essential competence of the powers that be.

I have no doubt that the authorities often lie, obsfucate, and generally run around like headless chickens. But actual conspiracy? No.

Absolutely. She had bad press that summer. Her death was a catastrophe for the RF and "the establishment" because she was turned into a saint.
Impractical, unsupported and zero evidence.

This has shifted from back then hasn’t it, I’m not sure why it’s still seen as a conspiracy in the pp’s list. I recall backlash re lab leak, on here too, but now people are divided.

Yes, I think it's ironic that people who believe in any CT are just crazy and parroting what they're heard as 'truth' - which indeed some of them are - but somehow, the intelligent response is to deny that the very concept of people conspiring to do something underhand and nefarious can possibly happen.

If you noticed that your DH had started mentioning a new female colleague a lot, and had been suddenly guarded when using his phone, was going out in the evening a lot with his friend 'Mark', had started dressing and grooming himself much better etc.... clearly, you would be a bonkers conspiracy theorist if you remotely entertained the slightest suspicion that he might be having an affair!!

Don't forget that every time somebody is prosecuted in court for 'conspiracy to X', they arrived there as a consequence of somebody originally having a conspiracy theory about them. Do people lie? Do people cheat? Do people do very bad things - often in association with others? Of course they do; so why would the idea of 'conspiracy theories' automatically be ridiculous and a clear myth?

Absolutely. We all remember how those conspiracy theories about how the covid lockdowns would never end turned out to be ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

Which was odd as the ABSOLUTELY TRUE conspiracy theories about how the covid vaccines would kill everyone in 12 18 24 36 72 months also turned out to be ABSOLUTELY TRUE and so there was no-one left to be locked down.

I never understood the backlash from those refusing to believe it was a lab leak.

At a very basic level there were two laboratories in the world researching corona viruses at the time. One in Texas and one in Wuhan. The first outbreak of the Covid coronavirus in the world takes place in Wuhan and we are expected to believe that this was somehow a coincidence?

Secondly China has a track record of poor bio security with a documented and admitted 2004 laboratory escape of the original SARS-CoV-1 virus in Beijing.

Perhaps if you don't believe in certain conspiracy theories, it's because you're looking for sound evidence. Not gossip, rumour, hearsay or unsubstantiated claims.
Perhaps certain situations are not as they are presented, but unless evidence emerges, no-one can say it's true.

That made me laugh. I don’t believe in conspiracy theories in general but to just blindly take what we’re told to be the truth is surely rather naive? As the saying goes there’s no smoke without fire so there’s probably an element of truth in some of them.

I often think/hope that, down in the trenches.

And United States government funded agencies funded (millions) and collaborated on scientific research at that very same Chinese lab, the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Posters were called conspiracy theorists and worse back then but it has changed now. I wouldn’t put it on op’s list. Nor Lucy Letby conviction, which is being looked at still.

I think it's fine not to blindly accept every claim, but that goes for conspiracy theories as well.
Evidence, not supposition.
On the BBC website there's a quiz about fake news, which is interesting.

Agree.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but what's your evidence?

Epstein did not kill himself.
Not 100% convinced 9/11 wasn't an inside job.
On the fence re moon landing.

The USA and the UK supposedly categorised Al Qaeda as a 'terrorist organisation' yet both countries recently very publicly welcomed a former Al Qaeda/ISIS leader to Government offices (with red carpet treatment)
You used to be called a 'conspiracy theorist' if you suggested all of the above were working together.
Now it's all in plain sight. 😂

It was the paramedics evidence at his inquest which raised suspicions for me - they had no reason to lie.

Thank you. I was trying to pluck up the courage and not get mocked, but totally believe it was fake. USA had to beat the USSR and were way behind.

If the motivation for faking the moon landings was competition between the US and the USSR, why did the USSR not call it out as a fake? The Russians had their own plans to land men on the moon and tracked the Apollo missions as they happened. If shenanigans were afoot then they'd have spotted it.

Surely if there was even a hint that it had all been a scam, Russia would have blasted that news out everywhere rather than (somewhat begrudgingly) congratulating the Americans on their achievement?

I believe that half a dozen or so, male billionaires run the world and that the man who perpetrated the Southport atrocity was groomed to do so, to subvert and cause chaos after Labour won the election.

Covid, yes, Epstein yes, he was 100% running a CIA/mossad honeytrap.

Letby no.