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I just watched the Walliams programme and...

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Headtorch · 10/11/2026 21:08

I don't think it was that bad?

Maybe with all the hype I expected it to be on the RB scale, but it isn't.

Undoubtedly a sleaze and probably several cases that could be brought for workplace harassment, but as terrible as I expected. Enough that those companies should refuse to employ him though, which they have, now it's come out.

Which I guess shows how low the bar is.

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Funnywonder · 11/11/2026 10:01

I can’t help but think this is rage bait. But I have to thank you OP, because your post made me curious enough to go and watch the documentary. I think as many people as possible should watch it and see what a disgusting specimen of a man David Walliams is. He is a predator of teenage girls and young women. A groomer. A sex pest. A destroyer of young lives. Are we at the stage now that it has to be anal rape to be condemned? Has Russell Brand unwittingly set a new standard of what we should be shocked by? You seriously need to have a word with yourself OP.

Efacsen · 11/11/2026 10:02

OsfameronTanamoril · 11/11/2026 08:54

I am so tired of all the misogyny on a women's site.

Agree it's very very disappointing

There are also many brilliant articulate posters re-butting the misogyny - here on this thread and elsewhere on MN who should be acknowledged too

IsItSnowing · 11/11/2026 10:02

I haven't watched the program so perhaps I should comment yet but I'm going to anyway.
Walliams may not have had sex with underage girls but that's just because he thought he was being very clever and waiting for them to be 16. But it very much sounds as though he was grooming underage girls for sex and surely that must be against the law.
Regardless, he's a creep and I'm glad he's been exposed.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

SheilaFentiman · 11/11/2026 10:06

I don't think it has a place in the list of allegations. I think it muddies the water rather than supporting the other allegations.

Your original post suggested that the list was solely about allegations of sexual assault from underaged girls. My reply about what “list” was meant to point out the that reports are not only about such cases. I probably could have been clearer.

However, it does not “muddy the waters”. Lilly has been prepared to waive anonymity and be interviewed - that is powerful. Her comments are supported by a statement from “Ben” (not his real name) who knew DW and met Lilly at parties etc and who thinks now he should have realised how vulnerable Lilly was at the time.

And if a man invites any woman - let alone a much younger woman who doesn’t have other accommodation at that time- to stay in his spare room, but doesn’t actually have a spare room so repeatedly suggests that she sleep
in his bed instead, then yes, he is abusing her position of vulnerability.

SheilaFentiman · 11/11/2026 10:07

ThatAmplePlumSwan · 11/11/2026 09:40

Good job he's not an immigrant or there'd be riots

You again?

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 11/11/2026 10:10

throwawayimplantchat · 11/11/2026 08:58

Surely it’s criminal to have sexual contact with a 15 year old? He sucked her breast and tried to make her touch his erect penis. That’s sexual contact with someone under the age of consent. It’s illegal.

The assault 'Jade' describes would be illegal regardless of her age. Doubly so on a 15 year old.

ThaneOfGlamis · 11/11/2026 10:10

I haven't seen it, but if nothing much illegal happened, it certainly sounds like behaviour unbecoming of a children's writer. But it has gained so much more publicity because of the court case and attempt to block it. He has caused all of the extra weeks of whodunnit speculation himself. Just letting the show come out and apologising would have come off much more favourable. A significant cohort of men would have forgiven him straight away and he could have had a second career life on youtube.

Zuve · 11/11/2026 10:10

The thing that gets me ick, is that he now reveals he is in hospital with bipolar disorder. But I have known lots of people with that condition, and it doesn't add up or make sense

SheilaFentiman · 11/11/2026 10:13

Zuve · 11/11/2026 10:10

The thing that gets me ick, is that he now reveals he is in hospital with bipolar disorder. But I have known lots of people with that condition, and it doesn't add up or make sense

People can have a medical condition and be shit people or be good people.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 11/11/2026 10:15

OsfameronTanamoril · 11/11/2026 08:54

I am so tired of all the misogyny on a women's site.

THIS.
I have honestly been quite shocked by how much it has been blatantly flowing around in the last week or so. I can only assume there are some bad actor's on here.

Efacsen · 11/11/2026 10:18

SusanAn · 11/11/2026 09:23

A man that would touch and abuse my 15 year old would find out exactly how bad it is

What, exactly, would you do? Are you suggesting that the parents of these girls are inferior to you in how they acted? What about the people who knew but did nothing? And don’t forget that includes a LOT of people, including women.

One of the young women he targeted for grooming was in foster care and subsequently homeless

Unless both her parents were dead or severely incapacitated it would very much suggest 'inferior' crap parenting

Not that that would in anyway excuse DW's behaviour

DoNotWalkInTheRain · 11/11/2026 10:22

@SheilaFentiman I am not trying to suggest Walliams covered himself in glory in the way he treated Lilly Creightmore, but ultimately she did not have sex with him, so whatever pressure he might have applied, it wasn't beyond her ability to resist.

Walliams has denied that he tried to pressure her into sex, so this is a case of her word against his.

I stand by my point that if she wasn't comfortable living in his flat, she should have moved out.

SheilaFentiman · 11/11/2026 10:24

Quick extract of Lilly's testimony from the Guardian article (not a full quote as very long):

Like Alex, Lilly Creightmore was an avid comedy fan. In July 2003, she went with her mum to a filming of Little Britain. She remembers Walliams staring intently at her from the side of the stage.

She noticed him again when she went to see a show inside an Agent Provocateur store in London. Creightmore had been a model, appearing on the reality TV show Model Behaviour when she was 16.

Then a card arrived out of the blue. Sent to her mother’s house, it pictured a young girl, arms crossed, with feathered angel wings either side of her. It was from Walliams, asking her for a date. He wrote: “When I saw you in Agent Provocateur I so wanted to speak to you but amongst all those frilly knickers I couldn’t find the words.” She had no idea how Walliams had found her name or address.

Curious, Creightmore says she called the number he had provided in the card. She was 18. Walliams was 32. She agreed to meet him for dinner.

She says she explicitly told him she was interested only in friendship, but over the years she knew him he would constantly pester her for sex. Looking back, she feels he tried to coerce her into sleeping with him.

After Creightmore fell out with her mother, Walliams invited her to stay with him for a couple of weeks at the end of 2003. She slept on the sofa but recalls that every night Walliams “would plead with me to share a bed with him and, you know, paw at me”, she says. “At some point, he put his head in my lap and made me stroke his head.” She adds: “I didn’t feel safe there and it wasn’t a good situation, so I had to go stay somewhere else.”

Ben (not his real name), a friend of Walliams’ at the time, recalls seeing Creightmore at a house party Walliams threw in the days she was there. It was Ben who had helped Walliams track down her contact details through the producers of the modelling show she appeared on when she was 16.

Against the backdrop of the lad culture of the early 00s, Ben had thought of Walliams as something of an “old-fashioned romantic” in his pursuit of women. He had a pattern, Ben says: “See a woman, think she’s attractive, find out how to contact her, send her flowers via that contact asking her out to dinner. Take her out for dinner, invite her back to yours. If she doesn’t come, be sad. Phone her every day until she agrees that the next time she will come.”

Now Ben is concerned that women may have felt uncomfortable with Walliams’ attention. He and Walliams fell out years ago, but he recalls that Walliams told him he (Walliams) was a sex addict. It is something the comedian wrote about in his autobiography when describing mental health issues in the early 00s. “I thought sex could take away my sadness,” Walliams wrote. “However, it just made it worse. And I sank lower and lower into despair. I had become a sex addict.”

Looking back, Creightmore now considers Walliams’ behaviour “highly inappropriate” and says she feels he abused his power. “He was pursuing me, you know, at a vulnerable age and place in my life, for sexual gratification,” she says.

“Yeah, I was a young adult, but I was a vulnerable young adult. [He was] making me feel special, plying me with gifts and then sort of disregarding me when he wasn’t getting what he wanted.”

SheilaFentiman · 11/11/2026 10:25

DoNotWalkInTheRain · 11/11/2026 10:22

@SheilaFentiman I am not trying to suggest Walliams covered himself in glory in the way he treated Lilly Creightmore, but ultimately she did not have sex with him, so whatever pressure he might have applied, it wasn't beyond her ability to resist.

Walliams has denied that he tried to pressure her into sex, so this is a case of her word against his.

I stand by my point that if she wasn't comfortable living in his flat, she should have moved out.

X post.

She did move out, because he kept pressuring her.

ETA and the investigation is around predatory behaviour, not solely criminal actions. The run up to her meeting him is pretty predatory

Winederlust · 11/11/2026 10:27

It's a sad state of affairs that the bar some people seem to have set is actual criminality. Behaviour doesn't have to be criminal to be disgusting and morally reprehensible.
Brushing it off as 'not that bad' is what enables this kind of behaviour and allows these men to think either they can get away with it or even that they're not doing anything wrong. It emboldens them to potentially go on to even more disgusting (and possibly criminal) behaviour.

squarecrow · 11/11/2026 10:29

The fact he was threatening to commit suicide if people found out what he’d done makes me wonder what he thought they’d found out.

Autumnchilling · 11/11/2026 10:30

startthedaywithkindnesd · 11/11/2026 09:13

I find a this all extremely uncomfortable. When did we reach the point that allegations are reported as fact. I do not doubt that he probably is guilty but the place for that is a court room following a comprehensive investigation by police officers presenting the facts supported by evidence and witness testimony to a judge and jury.

When we allow allegations to be treated as fact with no evidential test it’s a slippery slope to vigilante justice. Which would be a pretty horrific. Investigative journalism is incredibly important for shining a light on, especially when the person concerned is prepared to try and manipulate the law to protect him from justice. However , now is the time to hand it over. It doesn’t deserve to be headline news. It is, a the moment, allegations and the principal of innocent until proven guilty is a fundamental rule that we should all remember.

I think that the fact that many of these stories arise from media investigations (Guardian for DW, Times for RB and I also think Huw Edward’s but can’t remember which paper) says a lot about how little faith there is in our police forces to investigate these things. Possibly not helped by underfunding today, but back in the 90s/2000s young women would know that they wouldn’t be believed if they went to the police and I suspect it isn’t much better now.

Therefore, we end up with media organisations conducting their own investigations before things get handed over to the relevant authorities who can decide whether or not to bring charges.

Also, even though grooming was made an offence around 2003 that doesn’t mean there was widespread understanding as to what it was, both amongst public services and the general
public.

ApplebyArrows · 11/11/2026 10:31

It's relevant that he's a children's writer. (On the metric of book sales, very much a "leading" children's writer.) If such a person turns out to be in the habit of regularly approaching under-18s - and apparently even some under-16s - with sexual intentions, then it is kind of a big deal.

SheilaFentiman · 11/11/2026 10:34

absolutely @Winederlust

It was rightly reported and condemned that DW said awful things about a couple of the BGT contestants. Absolutely no criminality there but yes, we should still judge it as bad and it should have consequences (rebuke from the TV channel etc).

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/nov/10/david-walliams-recorded-derogatory-remarks-britains-got-talent-bgt-contestants

DoNotWalkInTheRain · 11/11/2026 10:34

SheilaFentiman · 11/11/2026 10:25

X post.

She did move out, because he kept pressuring her.

ETA and the investigation is around predatory behaviour, not solely criminal actions. The run up to her meeting him is pretty predatory

Edited

It was from Walliams, asking her for a date. He wrote: “When I saw you in Agent Provocateur I so wanted to speak to you but amongst all those frilly knickers I couldn’t find the words.” She had no idea how Walliams had found her name or address.

Curious, Creightmore says she called the number he had provided in the card. She was 18. Walliams was 32. She agreed to meet him for dinner.
She says she explicitly told him she was interested only in friendship, but over the years she knew him he would constantly pester her for sex.

How could she possibly imagine that message came from someone who was only interested in friendship with her?

If he was pestering her for sex, why did she keep in contact with him over a period of years?

Why did she think that moving in with someone who couldn't have made it more obvious he wanted sex with her was a better option than staying with her mother when they'd 'fallen out'?

thisismeithinkorisit · 11/11/2026 10:34

DoNotWalkInTheRain · 11/11/2026 10:22

@SheilaFentiman I am not trying to suggest Walliams covered himself in glory in the way he treated Lilly Creightmore, but ultimately she did not have sex with him, so whatever pressure he might have applied, it wasn't beyond her ability to resist.

Walliams has denied that he tried to pressure her into sex, so this is a case of her word against his.

I stand by my point that if she wasn't comfortable living in his flat, she should have moved out.

frying pan, fire.

she had no where else to go at the time, she didn't feel safe but he was likely a better option that the streets. I'm glad she managed to find where else to go before she finally felt she had to give him sex.

SheilaFentiman · 11/11/2026 10:35

squarecrow · 11/11/2026 10:29

The fact he was threatening to commit suicide if people found out what he’d done makes me wonder what he thought they’d found out.

It is not uncommon for abusers to threaten suicide if their partner tries to leave them etc.

thisismeithinkorisit · 11/11/2026 10:35

Zuve · 11/11/2026 10:10

The thing that gets me ick, is that he now reveals he is in hospital with bipolar disorder. But I have known lots of people with that condition, and it doesn't add up or make sense

well you only see a snapshot, so it's impossible to decide from them title you see if he does indeed have it.

however, the bipolar isn't the reason he'd a sleazy grooming arsehole. that's all on him

TemperanceWest · 11/11/2026 10:37

Funnywonder · 11/11/2026 10:01

I can’t help but think this is rage bait. But I have to thank you OP, because your post made me curious enough to go and watch the documentary. I think as many people as possible should watch it and see what a disgusting specimen of a man David Walliams is. He is a predator of teenage girls and young women. A groomer. A sex pest. A destroyer of young lives. Are we at the stage now that it has to be anal rape to be condemned? Has Russell Brand unwittingly set a new standard of what we should be shocked by? You seriously need to have a word with yourself OP.

Agree completely. The idea that as long as it's not rape it's "not that bad" is abhorrent. Walliams is a revolting predator.

SheilaFentiman · 11/11/2026 10:38

DoNotWalkInTheRain · 11/11/2026 10:34

It was from Walliams, asking her for a date. He wrote: “When I saw you in Agent Provocateur I so wanted to speak to you but amongst all those frilly knickers I couldn’t find the words.” She had no idea how Walliams had found her name or address.

Curious, Creightmore says she called the number he had provided in the card. She was 18. Walliams was 32. She agreed to meet him for dinner.
She says she explicitly told him she was interested only in friendship, but over the years she knew him he would constantly pester her for sex.

How could she possibly imagine that message came from someone who was only interested in friendship with her?

If he was pestering her for sex, why did she keep in contact with him over a period of years?

Why did she think that moving in with someone who couldn't have made it more obvious he wanted sex with her was a better option than staying with her mother when they'd 'fallen out'?

Stop victim blaming.

I have had friendships with men who I fancied initially but who turned me down, and vice versa. Good people respect boundaries. Bad people try to push boundaries.

Why did she think that moving in with someone who couldn't have made it more obvious he wanted sex with her was a better option than staying with her mother when they'd 'fallen out'?

That's from the article. In the documentary (which I hope you have watched) she describes herself as homeless at the time. I don't know, and neither do you, if staying with her mother was an option, but after she left DW's flat, she slept on the floor of a friend's place, she did not go back to her mum.