Transphobic Christmas lights

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Can't believe more people aren't up in arms about the transphobic Harry Potter Oxford Street lights.

Apparently a mere 10,000 people have sent emails to London Mayor Sir Sadiq Khan demanding that he ‘pull the plug on transphobia’ and cancel the themed lights.

The Good Law Project, who are always at the forefront of good sense and well-rounded thinking are quite rightly outraged that trans folk can't possibly feel Christmassy when inanimate twinkly Christmas lights are mocking their right to feel festive.

Down with this sort of thing.

Again wilful misunderstanding. Obviously for a trans woman who is reasonably passing it would be dangerous and inappropriate to use a male toilet. And a trans man would not feel welcome in a female toilet. You must surely see that.

Have you seen how much taxpayers' money has been directly spent on anti-women's-rights court cases? On anti-women's-rights parades? On anti-women's-rights education?

Thank God women have JKR in our corner or the deep pockets of anti-women public funding would have utterly crushed us.

Then they need to use a third space, don’t they.

And when there isn't one? As is usually the case

I see the claims are often made.

I see no actual evidence of men who present as their idea of a woman being any more at risk than any other man.

For a trans woman who is reasonably passing, men might be confused as to why they are in the gents. They will likely then conclude that they are looking at a trans-identifying man, because why else would that person be in the men’s?

Or they might say: ‘This is the men’s loos’ and the trans-identifying man can say: ‘I am a man’.

Not many of them pass very well though.

“Whiny entitled trans rights activists in other people having rights shocker”

They need to advocate for more to be available then. Hardly any men pass as women anyway so I suspect will be fine in the men’s.

I see the Khazi squad and their obsession that transwomen get to pee on the exact same porcelain that a woman previously peed on are here...

It's very telling how they don't seem to think there's anything more significant to women's needs and rights than being allowed a sign on a bog door.

Trans people can access toilets and healthcare. Please leave off with the hyperbole.

Sorry are you seriously saying that a transwoman going into a male toilet is not at any sort of risk on the grounds that you, flirtswithrhinos, have not seen any evidence of it?

Well I guess you don't know how many pass do you cos you only notice the ones that don't. You have probably shared a toilet with a transwoman at some point and not noticed. And that is a ridiculous suggestion that nobody is going to want to do. Would you want to declare private medical information concerning your genitals to random men every time you went to the toilet? Nobody should be asked to do that.

I don’t think they are at a very grave risk based on conversations with the men I know, who say that they might do a double-take but then get on with having a piss.

At any rate, where men go to wee and whether or not they are safe there isn’t really a problem for women to worry about.

I recall a trans-identifying man on Twitter many years ago saying he had often had those sorts of conversations in the men’s loos because he did actually pass quite well (at least in the eyes of some other men). There was no violence or aggression though. He confirmed that he was in the right place on account of being male and everyone got on with their business.

Again, you have no idea who passes because if they pass you aren't going to notice, duh.
And where do you suggest they go to the toilet whilst advocating for third spaces (along with advocating for medical care, basic rights, and trying to live their lives)? Would you like to be denied toilet access because you should have to advocate for them for several years first?

Well these are all such groundbreaking and interesting novel arguments

I mean that was the case for women in the past. I’m grateful for our feminist foremothers who fought for the spaces we now have access to when they didn’t have their own.

Exactly. Sorry lads, stay out, ask Stonewall etc to lobby for third spaces if you want, not my circus, not my monkeys 🤷‍♀️

It’s all there is.

I'm not really sure most women care about the plight of where trans women should go to the toilet. Its up to men to be more accepting of trans women in their spaces, not women giving up their right to have a single sex space

It’s really quite telling.

Well, is there any evidence?

Surely that's the important question.

After all, you wouldn't making an assumption that men can't handle peeing beside a man in a dress without turning violent based on no evidence would you?

Not to mention what about all the other vulnerable men? Do they also get a free pass to the lasses khazi for protection, or is it just the men who like to act out their sexist beliefs about women you feel a need to look after? Is the main purpose for ladies bog to give men an easier solution than having to do something about male on male violence now?

Thats OK then. If you recall that on twitter it must mean that all trans women are safe in male toilets. Never mind the research which shows the exact opposite, in fact shows that denying people the right to use the toilet of their choice actually makes everybody less safe, or the many reports of trans women experiencing violence in male spaces. Never mind any of that because waitingfordoggo read a tweet.
Do you think maybe, just maybe, it was a transphobe, pretending to be a trans woman on twitter, because it really doesnt seem very likely that a genuine trans woman would go out of her way to say that everything was hunky dory for her in the mens toilet.

Exactly this. Women were subjected to the urinary leash for many years, and without having the easy option available to men who are anti social piss artists caught short of pissing against a wall .

I see the khazi squad are bringing their usual genital obsession into it as well.