Thread 18 Starmer: All sides of the House agree apart from the Trump bootlickers

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Yep i pointed this out on the latest thread..

MN censor loads of stuff, even saying "is the weather nice in St Petersburg" is enough for a delete but say "Putin is a reasonable peace loving guy who was viciously attacked, by that dictator Zelenskyy 3 years ago & wants nothing but an end to war" and thats all perfectly ok..

Weird times.

Think of your Breetish Children, love rouble hungry desperate Russia

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67766964

How pro-Russian 'yacht' propaganda influenced US debate over Ukraine aid

Yep. The "will you send your DC to war" line is being pushed hard.

I've said it before (and this will probably be deleted), but the disinformation posters seem to arrive in groups of 3. 2 will post similar stuff and a third is a nodding dog agreeing with them. Lots of quoting each other's posts with positive affirmation.
The middle of the night posts on threads that have gone quiet for the night are illuminating as you will often get a post at 07, 17, 27 past the hour, and another similar almost immediately or an hour later.

I think I might start hiding all the Ukraine threads. The disinformation is awful.

Veiled references to disinformation seem to avoid deletions, rather than blatantly calling out the posters, I don't think the grasp of English is good enough to understand in the copy and religiously posters. (Carpers).

As an aside, I love the folk tune dance to your daddy.

It's disquieting the amount of disinformation being peddled almost as if there's going to be another WW, which Trump did mention several times during that wholly inappropriate meeting at the WH. I see it as a threat, clear and open.

Makes me wonder about NATO and whether the other countries would be foolish to assume the US would rise to the mutual defence clause.

Agreed.

Why would any European country trust Trump's America to rise to the mutual defence clause or to stick to any arrangement that isn't wholly to his benefit?

Well diplomacy for a start - something Trump is unable to do. Putin certainly won't stop at Ukraine.

Stick to the long running one

That one was under attack for a bit as well when the daily round up posts were deleted for some stupid reason

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I'm pleased to find I'm watching the 2 normal threads today. I just cannot comprehend what is difficult to understand about one country being the aggressor and another defending themselves. I don't get the mental gymnastics required to think the aggressor should defo take what they want because - because what!
Secondly it's so blatant the orange one uses 'peace' only to gain money/resources, otherwise no interest in it at all.
Finally, even if you could possibly agree with DT's viewpoint then that display was beyond appalling, incredibly disgraceful for the whole of the Oval Office.
Very sad, very worrying - very surreal! - times😞

I've just caught up on last nights Last Leg.

Not only do they brilliantly summit all up but watching Vance again was even more shocking. He was just bullying him and would t even let the poor man speak at points.

Think I might watch that now. I’m being outstandingly lazy today.
Edit: oh god Giles Brandreth is on. Don’t know if I can stand it. I have a total inability to cope with his stupid face and voice.

He was actually quite contained and witty last night.

Judy Love was quite mild for her too!

Copied from Blossomtoes on another thread

Zelenskyy is meeting the king tomorrow

I did watch, but had to zone out and read while both of them were contributing. Such a shame the luck of the draw put such hopeless people on last night.

Master stroke. Better than rescinding Trump’s invite - show him he’s not such a special boy after all.

Are they a couple, since QI 😮

Interesting how Canada equivalent of the Reform party (doing well for the past few years) are tanking in real time.

Seems being pro-Putin is becoming less popular.

Especially if they can make sure he has 3 visits to KC before Trump has hos very special 2nd.

He could move in. 😂

Especially if they can make sure he has 3 visits to KC before Trump has hos very special 2nd.

That's genius!

I posted this from Dominic Grieve on a different thread, worth reading