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Ukraine Invasion: Part 37

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MagicFox · 14/01/2023 15:52

Welcome all to thread 37. Thanks to everybody contributing to the backbone of these threads (extra hat tip to Ducks and Desdemona for posting daily updates) and to all lurkers too.

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katem98 · 19/02/2023 19:42

Igotjelly · 19/02/2023 19:15

More talk by Russia of a Ukrainian nuclear “incident”(in other words a false flag?) worries me given it’s the run up to the anniversary.

Also quite concerned by the US’ suspicions that China is about to provide lethal aid to Russia.

Yes I feel really uneasy tbh. I'm struggling with China's so say 'peace plan' whilst tensions with US so high and all of this talk re the balloons and lethal aid. I'm so used now to Russia saying one thing and doing the opposite that I'm (hopefully stupidly) thinking the same way ahead of the peace speech from Xi. I want to sleep through the 24th.

Greenshake · 19/02/2023 20:30

I have to admit when I saw this nuclear incident false flag thing, my first thought was “not this again” rather than any real panic. I find there is such a repetitive pattern to the Russian approach.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2023 07:45

Lots of rumblings this morning on Twitter that Kyiv city centre is shut down and that there are big Western motorcades around the US embassy. Wonder who is visiting. I think that Biden is in Poland today but all the reports are that after weighing the risks and benefits of a visit by Biden to Kyiv it was decided that it wasn't worth it.

MagicFox · 20/02/2023 08:32

Segue but this podcast might be of interest as it discusses the natural resources element to this conflict and future conflict:

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-great-simplification-with-nate-hagens/id1604218333?i=1000599738735

On this episode, environmental peacemaker and mediator Olivia Lazard joins Nate to unpack the relationship between mineral deposits, conflict-vulnerable zones, and high biodiversity areas to create interlocking risks to geopolitical and climate stability. Much like Olivia’s research, this conversation cover

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MagicFox · 20/02/2023 09:05

@Igotjelly - John Sweeney says the rumour is that Biden is indeed in Kyiv!

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Igotjelly · 20/02/2023 09:23

MagicFox · 20/02/2023 09:05

@Igotjelly - John Sweeney says the rumour is that Biden is indeed in Kyiv!

Oh I do like (and trust) John Sweeney!

Igotjelly · 20/02/2023 09:39

Seems the Israelis and Italians are also in Kyiv.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2023 09:58

Breaking News on BBC - Joe Biden is indeed in Kyiv

MagicFox · 20/02/2023 10:12

Well holy shit, good on Biden

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MagicFox · 20/02/2023 10:18

Obviously this has initiated a load of nuclear threats from Russia (below from ABC news)

Russia planning nuclear exercises to disrupt Biden's Europe visit, Ukrainian military says

Ukraine's military intelligence agency has accused Russia of planning to stage "large-scale nuclear exercises" to coincide with President Joe Biden's visit to Europe next week.
The GUR said Russia is preparing for test launches of nuclear capable missiles from land and sea, the agency said in a statement Sunday on its official Telegram channel.
The GUR said a nuclear armed submarine has been placed on the "highest level" of combat readiness and that strategic bombers have been moved to a base in Tambov, Russia.
The agency claimed the exercises are intended disrupt President Joe Biden's European trip.
"Such actions of the military and political leadership of the Russian Federation, in particular, are an attempt to hinder Joe Biden's visit to Europe, which is scheduled for February 20-22, through direct nuclear blackmail and to weaken international support for Ukraine," the GUR statement said.

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MagicFox · 20/02/2023 10:21

This sends such a powerful message, I'm feeling pretty in awe of Biden right now

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katem98 · 20/02/2023 10:22

All of this is giving me a squeaky bottom, can't lie!

katem98 · 20/02/2023 10:22

But then again as you all know it doesn't take much, does it?Grin

Igotjelly · 20/02/2023 10:23

I’m a bit of the view that they will have considered the risks very very carefully and have clearly decided it’s ‘safe’ and necessary.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2023 10:24

If Russia are angry it’s having an impact.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2023 10:26

MagicFox · 20/02/2023 10:21

This sends such a powerful message, I'm feeling pretty in awe of Biden right now

Biden, surrounded by people and clearly at ease couldn’t be more of a contrast with Putin who doesn’t even trust his own security detail to carry weapons.

Greenshake · 20/02/2023 10:27

I am so pleased about this. Glued to the news!

Underthesofa · 20/02/2023 10:52

Excellent speech by Biden.

It has made me cry.

Igotjelly · 20/02/2023 10:53

Yes I feel really emotional.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 20/02/2023 11:02

me too ... kinda lost for words. Biden is amazing, as well as Zelenskyy.

Greenshake · 20/02/2023 11:06

I am constantly in awe of Zelenskyy, he is the kind of once in a lifetime leader we all wish we had. I also think Biden has done a great job here.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 20/02/2023 11:06

www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-19-2023

Key inflections in ongoing military operations on February 19:

Member of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine's Committee on National Security, Defense, and Intelligence Fedir Venislavskyi stated that Russian forces have already deployed all their combat-ready units to the frontlines in Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts as well as parts of Zaporizhia Oblast.[23]

Ukrainian forces will reportedly be able to deploy only 50 Western-provided tanks to frontline areas by April, out of a promised total of 320 tanks.[24]

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) confirmed that the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) 1st Army Corps and Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) 2nd Army Corps are official formations in the Russian Armed Forces while denying accusations that it dismissed DNR Military Command spokesperson Eduard Basurin or any other LNR/DNR commander.[25] Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin seized on the controversy over Basurin’s reported dismissal by publicizing a meeting he had with Basurin in which Prigozhin continued several informational lines of attack against the Russian MoD.[26]

Chechen Republic Head Ramzan Kadyrov publicly applauded Prigozhin after likely refusing to join Prigozhin’s renewed campaign against the Russian MoD.[27] Kadyrov also indicated that he may be interested in forming a paramilitary company of his own after completing his government service.[28]

The Russian MoD falsely claimed that Ukrainian officials are preparing a radiological false flag attack in order to accuse Russia of violating the Convention on Nuclear Safety ahead of the 11th emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly.[29]

Russian Investigative Committee Head Alexander Bastrykin claimed that the completed investigation into the October 10, 2022 explosion on the Kerch Strait Bridge in Crimea proves that Ukrainian Special Services planned and conducted a terrorist attack.[30] The attack would have been a legitimate military operation, not a terrorist attack, had Ukraine conducted it.

A Russian milblogger claimed that Russian forces crossed the Russian border into Kharkiv Oblast and occupied unspecified border settlements.[31]

Russian forces continued offensive operations northwest of Svatove and near Kreminna.[32] Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces are strengthening frontline positions west and northwest of Kreminna.[33]

Russian forces likely secured marginal gains in the northern suburbs of Bakhmut and in the eastern outskirts of the city.[34] A prominent Russian milblogger claimed that degraded Wagner Group formations are narrowing the scope of their offensives in the Bakhmut area due to a lack of forces.[35]

Russian forces reportedly continued offensive operations along the western outskirts of Donetsk city and around Vuhledar.[36]

Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces conducted a localized ground attack near Novodanylivka, Zaporizhia Oblast and amplified footage showing Wagner Group fighters arriving in Melitopol, Zaporizhia Oblast.[37]

Crimean occupation parliament head Vladimir Konstantinov stated that Crimean occupation officials nationalized tens of billions of rubles (at least 10 million USD) worth of Ukrainian property and plan to use funds from the sale of the property to support Russian forces fighting in Ukraine.[38]

A Russian milblogger claimed that the Commander of Russian 45th Separate Special Purpose Brigade of the Russian Airborne Forces Vadim Pankov was promoted to Major-General.[39]

A Russian Lancet drone manufacturer and Kalashnikov Concern subsidiary is reportedly producing drones in a public sauna following disputes over access to its facilities, prompting another Russian drone manufacturers to call for the mass assembly of drones despite the lack availability of proper facilities.[40]

Ukrainian military officials reported that Russian forces are unable to repair modernized S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems near the frontlines due to logistics problems and have to transfer these systems to manufacturing plants in Russia.[41]

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MagicFox · 20/02/2023 11:13

We will have to steel ourselves for Putin's speech tomorrow. It will be about a war between Russia and the west and no doubt as threatening as possible

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Igotjelly · 20/02/2023 11:15

MagicFox · 20/02/2023 11:13

We will have to steel ourselves for Putin's speech tomorrow. It will be about a war between Russia and the west and no doubt as threatening as possible

I think at this stage I would be more concerned if he wasn't frothing.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 20/02/2023 11:17

Kyiv Independent Telegram

⚡️Italian media: Meloni to visit Kyiv (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/italian-media-italys-prime-minister-to-visit-kyiv-on-feb-21) on Feb. 21.

⚡️Borrell: 'Ukrainians receive (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/borrell-ukrainians-receive-a-lot-of-applause-but-not-enough-ammunition) a lot of applause, but not enough ammunition'

⚡️Russia's Rostec says it is stepping (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/russias-rostec-says-it-is-stepping-up-the-production-of-hypersonic-missiles) up production of hypersonic missiles
Russian state arms conglomerate Rostec said on Feb. 19 that it is scaling up the production of Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missiles for the Russian Defense Ministry

⚡️Bloomberg: EU members may agree (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/bloomberg-eu-members-may-agree-to-pool-ammunition-purchases-for-ukraine-in-march) to pool ammunition purchases for Ukraine in March
The proposal, which was put forward by Estonia and is estimated to cost €4 billion ($4.3 billion), won tentative approval from Romania and the Netherlands.

⚡️Blinken: US concerned (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/blinken-us-concerned-china-may-provide-russia-with-weapons) China may provide Russia with weapons

⚡️Foreign Ministry: Russia blocks rotation (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/foreign-ministry-russia-blocks-rotation-of-iaea-mission-at-occupied-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant) of IAEA mission at occupied Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.

⚡️Ukraine sanctions (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/ukraine-sanctions-moscow-stock-exchange-russian-bankers) Moscow Stock Exchange, Russian bankers.
President Volodymyr Zelensky signed into law a new set of sanctions on Feb. 19, targeting 333 Russians connected to the banking sector and the Moscow Stock Exchange. The sanctions will be in effect for the next ten years.

⚡️Russia shells Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, leaves hundreds of households without electricity (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/russia-shells-dnipropetrovsk-oblast-leaves-hundreds-of-households-without-electricity).

⚡️ Prosecutor General’s Office: Russia’s war has killed (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/prosecutor-generals-office-russias-war-has-killed-at-least-461-children-injured-924-since-feb-24) at least 461 children, injured 924 since Feb. 24. The real number of casualties is expected to be higher as the current count does not include data from Russian-occupied territories or where hostilities are ongoing. [Mariupol ...]

⚡️ US ambassador to UN: China would overstep (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/us-ambassador-to-un-china-would-overstep-line-by-supplying-lethal-support-to-russia) line by supplying lethal support to Russia.
In an interview with CNN, U.S. Ambassador to the UN Linda Thomas-Greenfield said "that would be a red line" if China provided lethal aid to Russia.

⚡️ Russia uses sexual violence (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/russia-uses-sexual-violence-as-weapon-in-its-war-against-ukraine) as weapon in its war against Ukraine.

Biden makes surprise visit to Kyiv, meets Zelensky (kyivindependent.com/news-feed/biden-makes-surprise-visit-to-kyiv-meets-zelensky)
U.S. President Joe Biden made an unannounced visit to Kyiv on Feb. 20, the first since the start of Russia's full-scale war.

⚡️Biden pledges $500 million
(kyivindependent.com/news-feed/cnn-us-president-joe-biden-pledges-500-million-in-aid-to-ukraine-during-surprise-trip)in aid to Ukraine during surprise trip.

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