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How does it feel to be Gender Critical?

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2021x · 12/11/2026 06:26

I was watching a compilation of Elmo dealing with the fact that everyone is treating Rocco like a living being rather than a rock- especially regarding the cookie!

I felt this is how it feels to be talking to people who wish to validate transgender ideology as a valid identity, or having a conversation about why males shouldn't compete in female categories...

Anyone else have examples of what it is like trying to engage with people who believe TRAs more than their own eyes?

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ZeroFilterMum · 12/11/2026 06:36

The Elmo and Rocco analogy is actually quite brilliant.

It's the sheer absurdity of being expected to ignore objective reality because someone insists otherwise.

We know what sex is. We know males and females are biologically different, and no amount of ideological language changes that.

Yet we're expected to pretend that words can override biology, that feelings trump facts and that asking perfectly reasonable questions about women's boundaries, privacy, safety and sporting fairness is somehow hateful.

It's like being told Rocco is a cookie and being branded unreasonable for pointing out that he's a rock!

13RidgmontRoad · 12/11/2026 06:39

Repeat after me: 2+2=5

Shedmistress · 12/11/2026 06:46

Like this...

Jesus Wow GIF by Assemblo
FoodoftheDog · 12/11/2026 06:52

Sadly for me it feels normal.

I grew up in a misogynistic narcissistic home and with men who ignored boundaries and thought they were much more special than women and that they were authorities on how women should behave.

caprioska · 12/11/2026 06:55

2021x · 12/11/2026 06:26

I was watching a compilation of Elmo dealing with the fact that everyone is treating Rocco like a living being rather than a rock- especially regarding the cookie!

I felt this is how it feels to be talking to people who wish to validate transgender ideology as a valid identity, or having a conversation about why males shouldn't compete in female categories...

Anyone else have examples of what it is like trying to engage with people who believe TRAs more than their own eyes?

Did you ever consider that you might be experiencing the "Everyone But Me" dynamic aka the spotlight effect (overestimating how much others are paying attention to or judging you) or missing a blind spot in your own behaviour while others are reacting to a pattern you haven't noticed?

HPFA · 12/11/2026 06:57

It's not easy.

Nobody actuslly believes you can change sex which is why the argument has to be shut down so viciously.

There was an incident recently where three transwomen living together had a big falling out and one of them went on Twitter to blast off about one of the others. They pointedly refused to use the preferred pronoun and interacted normally with posters who were misgendering. Clearly they had never genuinely believed that the rejected lover was actually a woman.

Imagine a similar situation with the trans element removed - you don't ever start referring to your cheating ex husband as "she" do you? Your family and friends would think you'd gone insane.

There are so many examples like this.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 12/11/2026 06:57

Gaslighted.
Dumbstruck by the sheer inanity of it.
Like the boy who shouts out that the Emperor is naked when everyone else is fawning over his supposed beautiful new clothes.
Surrounded by people who have taken leave of their critical faculties - or maybe they didn’t have any in the first place?

2021x · 12/11/2026 07:10

caprioska · 12/11/2026 06:55

Did you ever consider that you might be experiencing the "Everyone But Me" dynamic aka the spotlight effect (overestimating how much others are paying attention to or judging you) or missing a blind spot in your own behaviour while others are reacting to a pattern you haven't noticed?

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No.

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caprioska · 12/11/2026 07:15

2021x · 12/11/2026 07:10

No.

You don't believe in introspection just in case its your priors are off the mark? Reactionary oversimplified perspectives are made in such ways.

Heggettypeg · 12/11/2026 07:16

Like that scene in the Sense and Sensibility film (the one with Emma Thompson and Kate Winslet) where Elinor is on the stairs with a cup of tea and the rest of them are sobbing in their bedrooms.

2021x · 12/11/2026 07:17

caprioska · 12/11/2026 07:15

You don't believe in introspection just in case its your priors are off the mark? Reactionary oversimplified perspectives are made in such ways.

I believe that when a woman says "no", she means "don't ask again".

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HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 12/11/2026 07:21

caprioska · 12/11/2026 07:15

You don't believe in introspection just in case its your priors are off the mark? Reactionary oversimplified perspectives are made in such ways.

What? Are you trying to gaslight us, tell us that we didn’t see the issue in “the correct way”? Calling us “reactionary”?

What does “its your priors are off the mark” mean?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/11/2026 07:28

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 12/11/2026 07:21

What? Are you trying to gaslight us, tell us that we didn’t see the issue in “the correct way”? Calling us “reactionary”?

What does “its your priors are off the mark” mean?

Indeed. Gaslighting, lies and untruths are at the core of transactivism. With a side order of intimidation, threats and bullying to enforce the lies.

It hasn't worked and has now blown up in their faces. Hence the tedious stream of blokes and others sharing their fantasies and disordered thinking with us on here. 🙄

caprioska · 12/11/2026 07:30

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 12/11/2026 07:21

What? Are you trying to gaslight us, tell us that we didn’t see the issue in “the correct way”? Calling us “reactionary”?

What does “its your priors are off the mark” mean?

The priors mistakenly being sex instead of gender identity. It's trans gender identification not transexual. While I appreciate some people don't agree gender is a legitimate identity, identity is a personal perspective on the world. That others don't agree with that perspective doesn't invalidate it.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 12/11/2026 07:31

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 12/11/2026 07:21

What? Are you trying to gaslight us, tell us that we didn’t see the issue in “the correct way”? Calling us “reactionary”?

What does “its your priors are off the mark” mean?

It doesn't mean anything. It's a load of gibberish designed to have you doubting yourself and to draw you into a pointless argument.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 12/11/2026 07:32

Following message from that poster being a case in point.

dancingpumpkin · 12/11/2026 07:33

Currently I am feeling quite disturbed by the whole thing. Seeing the videos and hearing my friends reports of how scary it was doing a female-only Reclaim the Night march in Nottingham, whilst at the same time I was at an event which was very trans-inclusive.

Knowing that I had to keep my views to myself otherwise I would probably be hated/asked to leave in the name of "inclusion" is distressing.

I only feel compassion for those who are harming themselves by having extreme surgeries and taking hormones their body doesn't need to try to achieve the impossible.

The views I have to keep quiet about is the reality that people cannot change sex, which is really an extremely ordinary view, nothing horrible.

rubyslippers · 12/11/2026 07:33

caprioska · 12/11/2026 07:30

The priors mistakenly being sex instead of gender identity. It's trans gender identification not transexual. While I appreciate some people don't agree gender is a legitimate identity, identity is a personal perspective on the world. That others don't agree with that perspective doesn't invalidate it.

There is no such thing as gender identity
the Trans movement relies on a belief in gendered souls and being in the wrong body - this is is what the whole house of cards relies on
it also relies on others endorsing the view as well even if they don’t believe it
so Dave puts on a dress and he’s davina and isn’t be a stunning and brave woman
NO
and being a sex realist - not gender critical - is good because it’s acknowledging truth

Prekoc2 · 12/11/2026 07:34

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 12/11/2026 07:21

What? Are you trying to gaslight us, tell us that we didn’t see the issue in “the correct way”? Calling us “reactionary”?

What does “its your priors are off the mark” mean?

I'm glad someone else asked that (about "your priors"). I was beginning to think I must be being extraordinarily dense.

caprioska · 12/11/2026 07:37

rubyslippers · 12/11/2026 07:33

There is no such thing as gender identity
the Trans movement relies on a belief in gendered souls and being in the wrong body - this is is what the whole house of cards relies on
it also relies on others endorsing the view as well even if they don’t believe it
so Dave puts on a dress and he’s davina and isn’t be a stunning and brave woman
NO
and being a sex realist - not gender critical - is good because it’s acknowledging truth

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There is no such thing as

You could say the same about belief in god & yet people base their whole identities around it. This is no different.

Maaate · 12/11/2026 07:39

caprioska · 12/11/2026 07:37

There is no such thing as

You could say the same about belief in god & yet people base their whole identities around it. This is no different.

We don't have to follow their religious observations or rituals or even believe in their deity

Maaate · 12/11/2026 07:40

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 12/11/2026 07:31

It doesn't mean anything. It's a load of gibberish designed to have you doubting yourself and to draw you into a pointless argument.

Anyway, as MrsDanvers said...

caprioska · 12/11/2026 07:42

Maaate · 12/11/2026 07:39

We don't have to follow their religious observations or rituals or even believe in their deity

True but we still can't discriminate against religious people as in treat them differently as we would anyone else & call them perversely delusional.

BlueLegume · 12/11/2026 07:45

Thanks @2021x good idea for a thread. I am fortunate to be retired so one less place to be, work, that I would have to carry on the pretence. One thing I feel about being a sex realist is the massive change in language we use to hold up the pretence of gender.

Working in education for most of my career I can pinpoint at around 2013.2014 when we were all being advised to be mindful and cases of SEN pupils increased disproportionately. The class clown and serial disruptor was given a cloaks of protection by their SEN label. At that time it was dyslexia or Asperger’s. Mainly parent driven diagnoses.

Anyway I came to realise then I could only take so much BS, and I guess I feel the same about the gender/sex situation.

I see it as a phase we have to tolerate. I hate it. I hate the fact that it involves pushing boundaries to see how much we will accept. I feel like everyone now ‘protects’ themselves with a special status or label - ‘my OCD/ADHD/transness/anxiety.

Most things are simply part of being human and we need to accept some of us are good at this and not that. SO I guess how I feel is that I am confident this is a phase in history and will pass. What I also feel is very timid in sharing my views so this is limiting interactions with some people as I cannot bear the ever increasing bingo card of nonsense used to justify trans. This weeks new addition being ‘phenotype’. I also hate the hyperbolic nature of the language used. ‘Literal genocide’ being one of them. It make my skin crawl it is so tone deaf.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 12/11/2026 07:45

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 12/11/2026 07:31

It doesn't mean anything. It's a load of gibberish designed to have you doubting yourself and to draw you into a pointless argument.

QED re gaslighting!