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Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #63

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nauticant · 24/09/2026 13:07

TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 60: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5461133-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-60 16 December 2025 to 8 January 2026

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 25/09/2026 21:02

weegielass01 · 25/09/2026 20:57

I am "half hope, half agony" as to whether it, and the new P&P, will be any good. The Netflix Persuasion one was utter shite.

Is the new P&P the one with the profoundly irritating they/them Emma corrin?

weegielass01 · 25/09/2026 20:57

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 19:07

Is it a derail to ask if anyone's going to see the new Sense and Sensibility movie? 😬

I am "half hope, half agony" as to whether it, and the new P&P, will be any good. The Netflix Persuasion one was utter shite.

TheyAreLovelyLovelyPeople · 25/09/2026 20:53

Wow thank you all for the cutting and pasting and commentary. As always, very grateful.

(Sorry have been MIA, RL stuff getting in the way)

Fist bumps all round, wims.

ickky · 25/09/2026 20:20

fanOfBen · 25/09/2026 18:42

I actually didn't do any C&P today, so don't deserve thanks - they're all for @BettyBooper and @SomewhatGlad ! If anyone's up for thinking about next week, I should be available for Monday morning, but likely not afternoon; on Tuesday for early and late, but not 11-3ish; on Wednesday morning but likely not afternoon; and on Thursday provided they don't run late. However having recently retired and feeling allergic to commitment, let me say that's only an estimate, not a promise!

I don't know how you all manage, it gives me RSI.

Well done you lot.

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KittyWilkinson · 25/09/2026 20:14

Very many thanks to all. @nauticant I salute you! I appreciate the links and commentary, TT and the great cut and pasters @BettyBooper @fanOfBen @SomewhatGlad .
What a read! I'm just catching up.

CassOle · 25/09/2026 20:13

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 19:07

Is it a derail to ask if anyone's going to see the new Sense and Sensibility movie? 😬

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/films/5582330-sense-sensibility

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/films/5581813-sense-and-sensibility

It's interesting how one thread is more positive and the other more negative.

/EndDerail.

MarieDeGournay · 25/09/2026 19:59

'crap generic bonnets' was funny enough, but under the username of
'MyThreeWords' it really tickled me😁

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 19:16

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 19:07

Is it a derail to ask if anyone's going to see the new Sense and Sensibility movie? 😬

I'll wait until it's on Netflix!

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 19:15

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 19:00

You mistake me, my dear. I have a high respect for your nerves. They are my old friends. I have heard you mention them with consideration these twenty years at least. 😆

😁

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 19:13

MyThreeWords · 25/09/2026 19:09

I love that book. It is so intensely thoughtful. I am a bit scared of watching the adaptation, in case it is crap generic bonnets.

The risk is real!

MyThreeWords · 25/09/2026 19:09

I love that book. It is so intensely thoughtful. I am a bit scared of watching the adaptation, in case it is crap generic bonnets.

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 19:07

Is it a derail to ask if anyone's going to see the new Sense and Sensibility movie? 😬

DauntlessDamson · 25/09/2026 19:01

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 19:00

You mistake me, my dear. I have a high respect for your nerves. They are my old friends. I have heard you mention them with consideration these twenty years at least. 😆

Ooh, Mr Bennett!

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 19:00

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 18:48

Alas I'm allergic to cut and pasting. It brings me out in hives, and plays havoc with my nerves!

You mistake me, my dear. I have a high respect for your nerves. They are my old friends. I have heard you mention them with consideration these twenty years at least. 😆

BettyBooper · 25/09/2026 18:57

fanOfBen · 25/09/2026 18:42

I actually didn't do any C&P today, so don't deserve thanks - they're all for @BettyBooper and @SomewhatGlad ! If anyone's up for thinking about next week, I should be available for Monday morning, but likely not afternoon; on Tuesday for early and late, but not 11-3ish; on Wednesday morning but likely not afternoon; and on Thursday provided they don't run late. However having recently retired and feeling allergic to commitment, let me say that's only an estimate, not a promise!

Ah, @fanOfBen you have done sterling in keeping the c&p alive. Credit where due! 💪

Thanks @SomewhatGlad for picking up this afternoon, makes such a difference to read the tweets with the great commentary!

I can pick up next week, but not completely wanting to be tied to timings either. I'm sure between us all we can do it though.

Shall we leave it with you'll start Monday, but if for some reason you can't / don't want to, I'll pick up and we'll go from there?

Happy for anyone else to dive in though!

AWomanOfWealthAndTaste · 25/09/2026 18:49

Wishesandhorses · 25/09/2026 18:42

....... I'm sure I've got this wrong.

SP, having been told at the previous judgment that she should have loudly and clearly (and very very politely) stated that she had reasonable cause to invoke her right to single sex spaces and not get her kit off in front of the bloke trying to insist on it...

also should have declared loudly to all that it was a Firmly Held Belief.

Are we going to be issued with cards with all the things we have to state formally in order to not have to undress in front of an unbalanced man intent on making us do so? And where we make these statements? Does hanging out of the window and shouting it into the world count? Emergency megaphones to be installed in women's single sex spaces so you can hang out of the door and recite what's becoming a kind of speech declaration?

Cards would actually be progress. At least then we'd be aware of the expectations and could work through the checklist.

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2026 18:48

fanOfBen · 25/09/2026 18:42

I actually didn't do any C&P today, so don't deserve thanks - they're all for @BettyBooper and @SomewhatGlad ! If anyone's up for thinking about next week, I should be available for Monday morning, but likely not afternoon; on Tuesday for early and late, but not 11-3ish; on Wednesday morning but likely not afternoon; and on Thursday provided they don't run late. However having recently retired and feeling allergic to commitment, let me say that's only an estimate, not a promise!

Alas I'm allergic to cut and pasting. It brings me out in hives, and plays havoc with my nerves!

fanOfBen · 25/09/2026 18:42

FarriersGirl · 25/09/2026 17:24

Wow what an afternoon! Just catching up as a minor family crisis has meant I have not been able to listen or follow much in the last day and a half. Big thanks to @fanOfBen @BettyBooper @SomewhatGlad for the C&P. I hope to be around to help with this next week.

I actually didn't do any C&P today, so don't deserve thanks - they're all for @BettyBooper and @SomewhatGlad ! If anyone's up for thinking about next week, I should be available for Monday morning, but likely not afternoon; on Tuesday for early and late, but not 11-3ish; on Wednesday morning but likely not afternoon; and on Thursday provided they don't run late. However having recently retired and feeling allergic to commitment, let me say that's only an estimate, not a promise!

Wishesandhorses · 25/09/2026 18:42

....... I'm sure I've got this wrong.

SP, having been told at the previous judgment that she should have loudly and clearly (and very very politely) stated that she had reasonable cause to invoke her right to single sex spaces and not get her kit off in front of the bloke trying to insist on it...

also should have declared loudly to all that it was a Firmly Held Belief.

Are we going to be issued with cards with all the things we have to state formally in order to not have to undress in front of an unbalanced man intent on making us do so? And where we make these statements? Does hanging out of the window and shouting it into the world count? Emergency megaphones to be installed in women's single sex spaces so you can hang out of the door and recite what's becoming a kind of speech declaration?

MarieDeGournay · 25/09/2026 17:30

FarriersGirl · 25/09/2026 17:24

Wow what an afternoon! Just catching up as a minor family crisis has meant I have not been able to listen or follow much in the last day and a half. Big thanks to @fanOfBen @BettyBooper @SomewhatGlad for the C&P. I hope to be around to help with this next week.

Hope things settle down ASAP, FarriersGirl, sending FlowersSmile

Szygy · 25/09/2026 17:29

NP now running home to drain the alcohol cupboard dry and take an axe to the Singing Ringing Decision Tree (one for the more mature amongst us there 🙃)

Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #63
NormalityIsOverrated · 25/09/2026 17:28

Yes, thank you TT and all those who copy & paste, your efforts are much appreciated.

FarriersGirl · 25/09/2026 17:24

Wow what an afternoon! Just catching up as a minor family crisis has meant I have not been able to listen or follow much in the last day and a half. Big thanks to @fanOfBen @BettyBooper @SomewhatGlad for the C&P. I hope to be around to help with this next week.