Lib Dem conference big vote on supporting women's rights tomorrow

He is asked about women who say that they feel threatened by the presence of men in toilets, and his reply is that he 'doesn't agree with them' because he believes in equality.

he doesn't agree because it literally doesn't affect his life in any way whatsoever

women are just support humans to him

he listens to the likes of Helen belcher not because Helen is trans but because Helen is a man

The LGBT Lib Dems are a bunch of people who have no responsibilities and too much time. They dominate the whole party and have engaged in behaviour to intimidate, bully and otherwise force individuals out of the LDs. They were heavily involved in what happened to Natalie Bird. Numerous members also sit on other groups within the federal organisation within the party. They have more influence within the party for this reason. The number of active members who participate at national level is surprisingly small. Its a few hundred or so, that's it. Few people realise how the whole party is largely run out of sheds and isn't a professional outfit.

Ordinary female members who have full time jobs and kids don't have a chance compared to this, because it isn't their whole life obsession. They don't attend nationals. They haven't got the time to be on every sodding committee ever. We can't compete.

This is one of the key issues relating directly to sex discrimination - women with kids don't have the same representation because they don't have the time to represent their own interests in this way. And if we do we face levels of abuse and harassment that far outweigh that ANY male has to contend with.

Also see the Green Party.

This is why both parties are in such an utter mess. They are not in a fit state to be governing anything tbh.

Here's Natalie saying 50mins ago, exactly what I said 2hrs ago.

There's a reason for this.

Well Davey can always fall back on claiming that his advisors were dishonest.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4yvg3p0m8o

People can tell you until they are blue in the face that e.g. the EHRC guidance does not change the law or that something fishy is going on at the Post Office, but if somebody lied to you, what can you do?

Here's Natalie saying 50mins ago, exactly what I said 2hrs ago.

There's a reason for this.

Given the lib dems history of housing and enabling some appalling predators. Davey's reluctance to bar men from accessing women and girls undressing in changing rooms, showers, prison cells etc is par for the course.

I grew up in the South West, where people like my working class Daily Mail reading parents have been happy to loyally vote Lib Dem for years, as candidates have generally been sensible, reachable and focussed on local issues. Do they really want to stick two fingers up at this tranche of voters in order to steal Queers For Palestine types from the Greens?

The LGBT Lib Dems are a bunch of people who have no responsibilities and too much time. They dominate the whole party and have engaged in behaviour to intimidate, bully and otherwise force individuals out of the LDs. They were heavily involved in what happened to Natalie Bird. Numerous members also sit on other groups within the federal organisation within the party. They have more influence within the party for this reason. The number of active members who participate at national level is surprisingly small. Its a few hundred or so, that's it. Few people realise how the whole party is largely run out of sheds and isn't a professional outfit.

Ordinary female members who have full time jobs and kids don't have a chance compared to this, because it isn't their whole life obsession. They don't attend nationals. They haven't got the time to be on every sodding committee ever. We can't compete.

This is one of the key issues relating directly to sex discrimination - women with kids don't have the same representation because they don't have the time to represent their own interests in this way. And if we do we face levels of abuse and harassment that far outweigh that ANY male has to contend with.

Also see the Green Party.

This is why both parties are in such an utter mess. They are not in a fit state to be governing anything tbh.

https://x.com/LBC/status/1283844809405464576

None of this makes any sense. He just throws around words like 'equality' and 'respect' without anchoring them to anything tangible.

He is asked about women who say that they feel threatened by the presence of men in toilets, and his reply is that he 'doesn't agree with them' because he believes in equality. The over riding impression is that he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.

It's striking that somebody so invested in 'equality' has no understanding of equality law.

As a Gen X woman I am instinctively resistant to the idea that male and female behaviour is different, but I don't think it's plausible to say that male and female sexuality are the same. It's not as though there was ever any female equivalent to all those lads mags in the 90s. I know that Cosmo tried doing nude centrefolds in the 70's but they weren't a thing by the time I was reading the magazine a decade or so later. Men in the sex industry have always had vastly more male than female customers. If there was an equivalent female market for all this stuff somebody would have found it by now.

Lesbians might be attracted to women, but they haven't changed sex.

I don't even know if it was entryism. I think there was just an existing clique who wanted power and control.

The LGBT lib dems went through a period of blocking everyone who disagreed on twitter and reporting them. I think lots of women got banned on twitter from that.

I know some LDs (I would name them as they disclosed their identity on MN) were stalking MN. Their names came up in conversation and bingo within about fifteen minutes they appeared on MN. They included LD in elected roles who admitted their identity on MN.

Either they or a mate were clearly involved in the stalking and monitoring of MN and were probably involved in trying to get people banned from MN in 2018. I know they tried to get me banned at one point. There was one night it all kicked off and played out in real time on here.

It was eye opening.

If that's how they were behaving - using their real names - on MN you can imagine what they were doing within the party. And probably still is because no one ever challenged them properly within the party. No one can because they have so much influence. They know all the right people.

You'll note that Tim Farron was exited because of the LGBT Lib Dems. That's the point. They run the party.

Natalie, of course, was subsequently vindicated in the courts. Quite rightly.

They're just using the LGBT group as a vehicle to gain power?

The Tory leader of the opposition has just congratulated Lib Dem Zoe Hollowood for sticking up for women.

This feels like an important moment

The Tory leader of the opposition has just congratulated Lib Dem Zoe Hollowood for sticking up for women.

This feels like an important moment

This is one of the key issues relating directly to sex discrimination - women with kids don't have the same representation because they don't have the time to represent their own interests in this way. And if we do we face levels of abuse and harassment that far outweigh that ANY male has to contend with.

Also see the Green Party.

This is why both parties are in such an utter mess. They are not in a fit state to be governing anything tbh.

Such an important point, thank you.