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Thoughts on this academic paper about JKR?

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tuneafish · 20/09/2026 14:21

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19392397.2026.2660544

TRA talking points on JKR laundered into a research article. There's so much bullshit in there I don't even know where to start.

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Catabogus · 22/09/2026 08:53

ArabellaScott · 22/09/2026 07:10

How should one describe a man wearing a dress?

Reminds me of the old joke, “what do you call a gorilla with a machine gun?” Answer: “sir” (because it’s so damn scary)

Except, of course, here the answer is “ma’am”!

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 22/09/2026 09:07

Northernlightsss · 22/09/2026 00:15

Whataboutery.

That trans activists don't believe their rights should be up for 'negotiation' is irrelevant to whether JKR has chosen the path of stereotyping to frame this discussion.

Well, someone had to speak up for women and kids while the rest of polite society and policy makers kept their heads below the parapet.
What makes you very cross indeed is not so much that JKR said what she said, but that you know the vast majority wholly agree with her, and that despite all your efforts, you just can't shut her up.
And now policy is catching up as per ECHR and the SC ruling, more and more sports bodies tacking back to physical reality, the chances of Self ID as per May and Sturgeon way out of sight.
And what do you have to show in the academic world for all.your huffing and puffing? Stuff like this paper that is at the level of Rick from The Young Ones.

EmmyFr · 22/09/2026 09:17

AlwaysExtraHot · 21/09/2026 11:39

Not 100% sure about that; while sex is biological and fixed, and as a TERF I know that, I don't 'reject' the idea of socially constructed gender. I think we humans absolutely construct gender in e.g. dressing girls in pink and saying 'boys will be boys'.

I reject it in the sense that I reject racism. It exists, but in an ideal world it wouldn't exist, and we definitely shouldn't base laws upon it.

AlwaysExtraHot · 22/09/2026 09:19

EmmyFr · 22/09/2026 09:17

I reject it in the sense that I reject racism. It exists, but in an ideal world it wouldn't exist, and we definitely shouldn't base laws upon it.

I see, yes.
I thought they meant it in the sense of 'TERFs don't accept trans women as women, which is bad and wrong, wah,' but your meaning makes more sense.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 22/09/2026 09:34

Northernlightsss · 22/09/2026 06:22

Given ambiguity in presentation exists as a consequence of biological diversity & medical intervention, observation isn't always accurate. Just ask the scores of natal women who have been harassed in public toilets for not being 'feminine' enough.

Outing violates fundamental human rights because it strips away personal autonomy, privacy, and safety. In communities with high levels of prejudice being outed can expose an individual to targeted violence, harassment, and hate crimes. Unwanted disclosure frequently leads to job termination, housing eviction, and complete social or familial ostracization. Forced disclosure can trigger severe trauma, anxiety, depression, and heightened risks of suicidality.

Deciding when, how, and to whom to disclose one’s identity is an essential exercise of human dignity and self-determination. Taking that choice away is a form of coercion and control.

Yep, all those men on women's/lesbians dating sites that "withold" their identity (hi Roxy T). It's <such> a breach of their inherent human rights that they should reveal their sex when such a situation is <absolutely> pivoted on sex.
That's before we get onto toilets, sports, prisons, refuges.
Another version of "cakeism", in the fantasy world where gender >>> sex, this preposterous idea that gender as the defining characteristic over sex maybe wouldn't even be declared, these individuals would lead a private life even where public declarations are needed for any societal functioning.
How are we going to set public health policy if gender remains at the individuals discretion to divulge?
These people are absolutely bonkers, their paraphilias, dysphorias, extreme temperamental sensibilities would supercede rational objective measures, if they got their way .

TheKeatingFive · 22/09/2026 09:49

No one has any rights to conceal their sex in order to access spaces that don’t belong to them

SecretDressAgent · 22/09/2026 10:01

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 20/09/2026 18:59

Have the social "sciences", sociology, <ever> been such a binfire?

Have they ever been a really serious subject the way that maths or history are real subjects?

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 22/09/2026 10:12

TheKeatingFive · 22/09/2026 09:49

No one has any rights to conceal their sex in order to access spaces that don’t belong to them

That's the "justification" here. That the right to a "quiet" life for trans means they don't have to declare sex, they can just "portray" the gender identity or presentation they wish to the world, and the world can fit around them.
So the likes of those accessing women's dating sites, in this so-called trans inclusive perfect world, a man can access these sites, not declare anything in his inalienable right to privacy, display his female gender, and that must be accepted absolutely and without dissent, because his right to a quiet life, and a life free of transphobia, means his movements in such circles are totally consistent.
Anything that "outs" him as not female, oh, let's say the creator of the dating site IDing him correctly at the onset, or the woman on a date screaming about the cock sitting opposite her, is victimising him.
So, not only do these paraphiliac men want full access, they even demand their full privacy to do it.

simonr07 · 22/09/2026 15:26

JKR is a hero and should be respected for telling the truth and stating fact, not attacked and abused by trans ideologists.

Can I be cheeky and ask anyone reading this to please sign and share my petition if you agree , it's about better access to evidence based, science based information rather than the gender affirming information our teens are referred to when they query their gender... https://c.org/nGgVt2NrsN

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 23/09/2026 15:44

tuneafish · 20/09/2026 14:21

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19392397.2026.2660544

TRA talking points on JKR laundered into a research article. There's so much bullshit in there I don't even know where to start.

Wait til she dies. Journalists and academics in this country will be free to explore all her repellent comments about trans, nb and asexual people without fear of legal silencing.

It's still underreported how she sent legal threats to journalists who dared question her hiring a high-profile domestic abuser.

Books will be written about her weird comments during Indyref, graceless refusal to apologise for hiring Depp and ceaseless attacks on minorities.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 23/09/2026 15:50

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 23/09/2026 15:44

Wait til she dies. Journalists and academics in this country will be free to explore all her repellent comments about trans, nb and asexual people without fear of legal silencing.

It's still underreported how she sent legal threats to journalists who dared question her hiring a high-profile domestic abuser.

Books will be written about her weird comments during Indyref, graceless refusal to apologise for hiring Depp and ceaseless attacks on minorities.

You're really grasping now.
"Wait until she dies", what, you think she'll be as eviled as Savile?
You're as immature as you are malicious.
Then again, plenty of your activist chums sport t-shirts expressing the desire to bring her demise forwards...

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 23/09/2026 15:56

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 23/09/2026 15:44

Wait til she dies. Journalists and academics in this country will be free to explore all her repellent comments about trans, nb and asexual people without fear of legal silencing.

It's still underreported how she sent legal threats to journalists who dared question her hiring a high-profile domestic abuser.

Books will be written about her weird comments during Indyref, graceless refusal to apologise for hiring Depp and ceaseless attacks on minorities.

I think this comment <really> sumps up the difference between the realists and the trans activist/Omnicause clique.
I absolutely despise the TRAs, but I don't for one moment want them dead.
Genuinely. I'm not some bleeding heart, far from it, but I don't hold such negative emotions even for those whom I feel are breaking things up.
No, I expect to win the argument, not hope they walk in front of a bus.
The TRAs/Omnicausers, I don't have the same confidence in them.
And before TransParent says, oh I only mean when JKR dies as an old granny, no, I don't think so.

Veilsofmorning · 23/09/2026 16:04

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 23/09/2026 15:44

Wait til she dies. Journalists and academics in this country will be free to explore all her repellent comments about trans, nb and asexual people without fear of legal silencing.

It's still underreported how she sent legal threats to journalists who dared question her hiring a high-profile domestic abuser.

Books will be written about her weird comments during Indyref, graceless refusal to apologise for hiring Depp and ceaseless attacks on minorities.

Your opinion of what will happen in the future does not matter here or change the lack of academic rigour in the conduct and reporting of this ‘research’ (and I use the term loosely). Falling short of academic standards would be cause for concern whatever the subject matter. Strongly held opinions are no excuse for sloppy work, indeed, they should make one extra careful to reflect on and be aware of possible (probable) bias - and any reputable university teaches that in mandatory research and ethics training.

TheKeatingFive · 23/09/2026 18:11

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 23/09/2026 15:44

Wait til she dies. Journalists and academics in this country will be free to explore all her repellent comments about trans, nb and asexual people without fear of legal silencing.

It's still underreported how she sent legal threats to journalists who dared question her hiring a high-profile domestic abuser.

Books will be written about her weird comments during Indyref, graceless refusal to apologise for hiring Depp and ceaseless attacks on minorities.

She hasn’t made any repellent comments though. All of your post is just pure fantasy because you cannot bear to admit this woman is right. 🤷‍♀️

BackToLurk · 23/09/2026 18:30

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 23/09/2026 15:44

Wait til she dies. Journalists and academics in this country will be free to explore all her repellent comments about trans, nb and asexual people without fear of legal silencing.

It's still underreported how she sent legal threats to journalists who dared question her hiring a high-profile domestic abuser.

Books will be written about her weird comments during Indyref, graceless refusal to apologise for hiring Depp and ceaseless attacks on minorities.

Yea, yea. "No one can say anything until she's dead because we'll be making stuff up and would get sued if she was still alive" is not the winning argument you believe it to be.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 23/09/2026 23:28

MyThreeWords · 20/09/2026 17:38

I'm just starting, finally, to learn that 'academic' doesn't mean the same as it did a generation or so ago when I was a post-grad. The enshitification of undergraduate education that today's young people seem to feel forced to purchase at extremely poor value has produced a complete devaluing of the whole university sector at every level.

It's so hard for someone who was lucky enough to receive an adequate university education to really accept what the sector has become.

I agree with all my heart. Young people have been tricked into taking on huge debts while wasting several years for a piece of paper and some mediocre teaching, often in pointless subjects. Then comes a stream of trivial and badly researched papers, to continue the downward trend.

The one thing that raises my spirits a bit is discovering that word that sums it all up: enshitification. Thank you for adding that to my vocabulary!

roseyposey · 23/09/2026 23:30

The title alone 🤭

Manyanamanyana · 24/09/2026 04:44

tuneafish · 20/09/2026 14:21

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19392397.2026.2660544

TRA talking points on JKR laundered into a research article. There's so much bullshit in there I don't even know where to start.

Huh. I wrote a nice email to the author who provides an email address, inviting her to Mumsnet to find out why JK has so much support on here. Wonder if she will visit?

ArabellaScott · 24/09/2026 07:52

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 23/09/2026 15:44

Wait til she dies. Journalists and academics in this country will be free to explore all her repellent comments about trans, nb and asexual people without fear of legal silencing.

It's still underreported how she sent legal threats to journalists who dared question her hiring a high-profile domestic abuser.

Books will be written about her weird comments during Indyref, graceless refusal to apologise for hiring Depp and ceaseless attacks on minorities.

Holy fuck. You don't even grasp how awful that comment is, do you?

AsTreesWalking · 24/09/2026 08:06

Honestly, the only possible reaction is incredulous laughter.
Dabralor nailed it with 'Pretentious EPQ'.

TheKeatingFive · 24/09/2026 08:26

Just to be completely clear about what JKR has done here, going to summarise …

Refused to play pretend that men who like to wear dresses are actually women

Campaigned for Scotland to stay in the union

Had a tangential association with Johnny Depp in that he was cast in a film based on her franchise, but was then recast.

That’s it …

Jesus Christ @TransParentlyAnnoyeddo you hear yourself? You sound unhinged.

Seriestwo · 24/09/2026 16:28

“Outed” - but you can’t hide your sex, everyone knows. For a start, they usually tell you in the first 30 seconds of meeting them. And if they don’t mention it (rare) my eyeballs, nose, ears and emplyment tribunal help me figure it out.

Ractify · 24/09/2026 16:55

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 23/09/2026 15:44

Wait til she dies. Journalists and academics in this country will be free to explore all her repellent comments about trans, nb and asexual people without fear of legal silencing.

It's still underreported how she sent legal threats to journalists who dared question her hiring a high-profile domestic abuser.

Books will be written about her weird comments during Indyref, graceless refusal to apologise for hiring Depp and ceaseless attacks on minorities.

Why on earth would you wait, when I do believe there is £1 million just waiting for anyone who can provide actual evidence of JKR stating anything “transphobic”.

Astonishingly, no one has been able to claim the money…. Must be due to TRA “Truthphobia”, don’t you think?

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 24/09/2026 17:00

Ractify · 24/09/2026 16:55

Why on earth would you wait, when I do believe there is £1 million just waiting for anyone who can provide actual evidence of JKR stating anything “transphobic”.

Astonishingly, no one has been able to claim the money…. Must be due to TRA “Truthphobia”, don’t you think?

Even when JKR dies, she'll live on in their heads.
Hey, if Ed Sheeran is currently torturing the Omnicausers, can you imagine how embedded Rowling is as a brain worm in the skulls of TRAs?
To know she was instrumental in stopping the tidal surge is in itself torture.

CrystalSingerFan · 24/09/2026 17:24

MyDpsanarse · 20/09/2026 17:18

What's truly worrying about this is the way they're trying to present it as a serious academic paper. If this is the cream of the Australian intelligentsia then they're in trouble

Apologies if it's been quoted before, but here's an old joke that I genuinely thought was from Clive James. But apparently not.

"What is the difference between Australia and a pot of yoghurt?
"If you leave a pot of yoghurt alone long enough, it will develop a culture."

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