Kenwood Ladies Pond Authoritarians

Well done that woman.

Of course you can. The majority of readers will see through you and this bizarre cult-like behaviour.

Well, it wasn't clear to me, which is why I asked.

Thing is it's not a "trans-inclusive" environment. Men pretending to be women have gate crashed. It'll be all sorted soon once the court cases happen.

"the rollingpinnutter"

Another addition to the Be Kind insults list

The "users of the pond" voted did they?
In my experience, the only people who are this naive and stupid are doing it deliberately. You know good and well that the majority of people who responded to that "referendum" were not users of the damn ponds.

And it wouldn't actually matter if they were. You can't take a vote on whether it's ok to break the fucking law and decide that if enough people want to that somehow makes it ok.
No it doesn't.

I reported it.

I see why you did, but I'd let it stand.

When people show you who they are etc...

So breaking the law is bad? I'm so glad the Suffragettes didn't take your advice.

Boring. Trans men of course have the right to be in female spaces. Although they are also buying into the basic sexism necessary to adopt any transgender identity.

Feminism is an important part of my identity, yes. As are logic, fairness and honesty, even when it's to my own disadvantage.

I'm sorry you have got yourself stuck in this self-limiting pattern of projecting hate onto other people. It really will do you no good over time. Try to open your mind and consider other perspectives instead of assuming everyone is motivated by the same type of hatred and suspicion that you clearly feel.

True. It will probably get left anyway, but I found it hateful given what Rollingpin has said given their experiences.

There's no way to know how many women have self excluded from the pond over the years leaving only the ones who don't mind sharing with men. I think if we could put a number on that it might look very different.

Trans men have the right to be in female spaces? Someone didn't read the Supreme Court's clarification.

Oh dear. Are you ok?

I have no doubt both your posts and mine show each of us very very clearly.

Fundamentally, what it boils down to is that I think female people matter in our own right, and you don't.

To be fair if it comes down to choosing to share a pond with a screaming weirdo like Venice Allen (do watch the video of her histrionics) or an army of trans women - I suspect the vast majority of female humanity would choose the latter.

I think you are right that there will always be some women who will privilege men over difficult women, sadly.

A man is also far more likely to be able to easily kill you than a woman is.

Oooh name check!! I like it! Actually, if you’d read my previous posts on other threads, I’m acyally a great supporter of TIF. The thing is, if you put TIM in female facilities, you’d have to put TIF in male facilities. A TIF got raped twice within hours of being put in a male psych ward. Tell me again how gender ideology benefits females? Until the SC ruling, TIF could not access RCC as they were women only. There are very very few RCC for men.
if TIM are in danger in male facilities such as prisons, surely TIF would be in even more danger?

Ah no, I think it’s cute. I’ve got a fan! How thrilling.

Stan, possibly!

I think they need a care package of a dictionary , the 88 page supreme court ruling and a tunnocks teacake or two.

I read it. I know exactly what it said about trans men, and why the very specific scenario where it was suggested trans men might be excluded to meet the proportionate aim of a woman-only service isn't relevant here.

But you are so funny in the way you will focus on the tiniest detail that might be twisted to back you up when everyone can see there's a mountain of facts, or in this case pages of carefully written judgements, which you are ignoring because they don't 😂