US study shows link between transgender ideology and left-wing violence

There are places like Thailand with a higher social /cultural tolerance for trans women, sure, but the idea that in the west (I assume the poster I responded to was talking about America as the study is American and she was referencing right wing gun culture etc) the idea that there is a ‘trend’ for coming out as transgender because a homophobic parent is more likely to accept it is a myth (and a disingenuous, harmful one).

Yes, the parents accept that they were born into the wrong body and suddenly it is fine for them to sleep with the same gender.

If an entire theocratic nation (Iran) operates along those lines, I don't think it's particularly strange to suggest individual parents will.

There are many religiously conservative parents in the US. Why do you think that it is unlikely that they might have exactly the same homophobia as religiously conservative countries such as Iran?

You know that there are churches that will marry a transwoman and a 'cis' man for example, but won't marry two men, right?

It's wild that people can't see why religiously, or otherwise, conservative parents wouldn't prefer to believe that their son wants to sleep with men because he is really their daughter, rather than accept they have a gay child.

I don’t think any of you are being at all honest pretending to believe that in American, the UK etc, parents are more likely to accept a trans child than they are a gay child

…. BUT I am glad you all suddenly recognise that transgender identities exist in cultures across the world (and always have done, and probably won’t stop existing just because you yell ‘bloke in a dress’ back and forth at each other on the internet 🥳)

No-one said 'parents'. We are talking about specific sub-groups of parents.

'Pretending to believe' is your skillset, not ours.

I've never heard anyone deny that there are trans-identified persons, whether the identity is freely chosen or coerced, in other countries.

I don't think anyone has ever denied that in countries and cultures with very rigid ideas of sexuality and/or 'appropriately sexed' behaviour, individuals who sit outside those constraints have been labelled as 'not-men' or, less frequently, 'not-women'. You seem to be playing catch-up.

It’s a weird phenomenon on the section of the site that people think they’re the top most up to date on all research and discussion, and anyone else must be playing catch up. We have all the information you do, and we STILL don’t agree with bigotry.

Point to the bigotry please

‘Sugar’ 😂

Still waiting for the bigotry to be pointed out.

If you did some research you'd find that the girls that were originally given puberty blockers were given them because their parents did not want butch lesbian daughters.

And Suzie Green, literally had a husband who did not want a gay son, so they gave him drugs and took him to Thailand to have his penis removed on his 16th birthday.

Loads of them. In their own words.

@Mikatdo
"BTW, KJK was not physically attacked in Australia. She had a can of tomato soup poured over her in New Zealand."

So that's not a physical attack?

Were you so offended you had to get it deleted?

I'm still happy to explain why your assertion that "you all suddenly recognise that transgender identities exist in cultures across the world (and always have done" might indicate you are playing catch up. I'm helpful like that

Explain if you like. It’s true I am a bit confused why if you all know that transgender people have existed across cultures for thousands of years, you’ve spend the last decade or so whipping up a moral panic.

I’m not particularly offended by being called sugar. You know it’s condescending, and it’s not how I’d speak to other women, but I didn’t report you.

The phenomenon that seems to have existed across time and cultures is a variety of similar, but not identical ways, for cultures to pretend that they do not have any gay men (and perhaps to a lesser extent, gay women).

People self-IDing as 'transgender' and declaring that this gives them the right to redefine the meanings of the words 'woman' and 'man', is a much more recent phenomenon.

There is no whipping up of a moral panic. There is simply an insistence by women that we are not a resource to be used by men either to affirm an identity or to feed a fetish.

By SOME women. Please don’t assume you speak for us all.

By SOME women. Please don’t assume you speak for us all.

I think everyone understands exactly what women she speaks for.

You want to be a resource to be used by men either to affirm an identity or to feed a fetish?
I will truly never understand men.

'Trans' is a modern trend so therefore hasn't existed 'forever', just a decade, although a decade can seem like forever for those with micro minds.

I do think the threats and violence are all coming from one side and it's time the authorities in every country recognise that.

We do speak for all women even those who don't care if their rights are taken from them, those who want to give their rights away, those who are happy to forfeit they rights so they can submit to the authority of men.

That's up to them, giving away the rights of all women because of any of the above is not theirs to do.