Such an interesting article about the psychological burden of performing “gender”

So give us an example that is not an extreme where performing opposite sex stereotypes is done to attract a mate. How about teenage girls cutting off their breasts and taking cross sex hormones? There are lots of them after all.

(although I think the ‘man in fishnets’ scenario is pretty common tbh)

This may be news to morons, but infertile & menopausal women still 'mate'.

What was prudish about nutmeg’s reply?

Breasts are usually appealing to straight men and to lesbians. They don’t have to be massive or fake though. My small natural ones have been appreciated by my partners over the years.

I was being facetious lovey.

I’m not attracted to men with big boobies even though they are the opposite sex to me.

Me neither!

I’m still not sure whether @Northernlightsss is suggesting men and women aren’t very different, or that they have very different personalities that go back millennia.

A) if that's true, because a lot of blokes are perverts, I guess?

B) what kind of person knows the Top Of The Pops of porn? And isn't embarrassed about knowing?

Medical enhancements aren't 'ubiquitous'.

In the UK there are more breast reduction surgeries than breast enhancement surgeries according to the BAAPS. There goes the puerile 'big boobies' nonsense.

The women I know who have big breasts find them annoying and causes them discomfort.

Nah.

We fuck, we shag, we bonk, we have at it, we might even - if Barry White's playing - make love. But we don't mate.

I’ve never once said to a man “lets mate”!

Reminds me of a bloke at work who started wearing a pink dress and carrying a handbag and using the ladies loos. Didn’t remotely pass and he knew that. But he demanded everyone play along. Kept popping up in various different women’s toilets. When you came across him in the corridor there would be an exaggerated “hi!” and an attempt to engage whereas before he probably wouldn’t even have nodded.
Workplace policy meant we couldn’t object to his presence in the toilets at first.
Some women fawned over him and the rest of us did our best to keep out of his way. One or two women in his unit eventually raised the toilet issue.

Anyway, after a while he started working from home full time because he “didn’t feel safe to come in to work”.
So this wasn’t a question of passing / failing to pass. He just didn’t get the affirmation he demanded and felt entitled to. And that was enough for him to declare he felt unsafe and to be allowed different working arrangements. None of which can have helped his mental health.

Did you hear the story about her calling all the staff together at the start of a tour? She lifted her shirt, said "there you go, you've seen 'em. Now let's get to work."

Dolly was one of a kind.

DH says it's a big 'No' from him too.

Thanks, I hadn’t heard that. She had a sense of humour, she named her breasts “Shock and Awe”!

What's prudish is the over reaction to the suggestion of the fact that larger breasts are generally considered attractive. That isn't to say small one's aren't so relax.

But the over reaction to women embracing their sexual traits by enhancing them points to misogynistic Victorian shaming of women's sexuality. And this sort of 'shaming' via the framing of women's expression of sexuality as 'stereotypes' is all over the GC movement.

Shouting 'stereotypes' at women's sexual liberation isn't the feminist win you think it is.

Hmm.

Northernlightsss thinks we're prudes for not accepting their blather about 'big boobies' and bizarre assertions about 'mating' and porn.

Whereas I think Northern is creepily obsessed with tits, porn and 'mating' to derail a perfectly interesting discussion about suicidal psychiatric patients and the pressures they may experience.

He does seem creepily obsessed!

The primary biological function of human breasts is to produce milk to feed infants.

As I already mentioned, trans people suffer from multiple suicide risk factors not related to 'performance anxiety' so unless those change neither will their suicidal ideation.

Um, I'm not the one losing my mind over the words 'big boobs'. 😂__

I think they’re still trying to flog their “stereotypes” dead horse. However the non sequiturs have become so prolific it’s difficult to be clear what their point is. Something, something boobs therefore transwomen have to have big ones and transmen have to cut theirs off. Who knows?

Now get it right, You used the word ‘boobies’!
How old are you?