Lactation support conference in Ireland - the quiet part out loud

Certainly that should happen. But I highly suspect he will be dropped from the conference. Here's more details on this man, source is unfortunately Irish Gript but in the absence of the main media it's the only thing we have....

Fury as breastfeeding event persists with 'kinksters' speaker - Gript

Gript have quoted him as follows:

• “There are several reasons a person may choose to lactate regardless of whether they can gestate a child…a non-gestational parent might choose to induce lactation as a way to feel emotionally closer to the baby, assert their own feelings of parenthood, gender euphoria, or just for the unique experience of it,” he says.

When you see perversion staring you in the face it's hard to credit that the ALCI invited this man.

More from Gript:

• he adds later in the book (page 152): “As to the question of why they would want to, it seems reasonable to believe that cis men want to lactate for the same reasons as anyone else. Which is to say, usually to feed and bond with their baby and to a lesser extent for curiosity, fun, or sexual gratification”.

It's so insulting to women/mothers, any of us really, I breast fed my children, equating that with 'fun', or sexual gratification is mind boggling insulting. The amount of drugs men have to take to produce non milk, and give that to a baby is child abuse. Of note on Twitter many are calling it sexual abuse as well.

I think we've known for a while that as transactivists escalate with their attacks on safeguarding children, the general public react with righteous fury. The trouble is the behaviour is often so extreme and perverted that it doesn't get reported by the MSM - for all sorts of reasons.

The event has been cancelled.

Good. It was a really bad idea.

Is it really cancelled? I can't find that reported anywhere.

I wonder if it was the hotel refusing to host

https://x.com/aislingaon/status/2093392668302733477?s=46&t=MOj6CgFoSi71haSbHpE99g

The hotel has been inundated with people objecting to this freak show.

I thought the thing cancelled was the paedophilic bloke, not the whole event. Not so good, if some of the people attending and giving talks and so on were actually being sane.

Great news, many thanks for sharing the link. I can imagine the hotel manager thinking "wtf" when getting the complaints, I'm sure he/she thought they were just hosting a wholesome event for professionals who support new mums.

It's a lovely family run hotel and I'm sure they're shocked after getting phone calls objecting to this freak show.

I partially agree but the overall organisers have been shown to have terrible judgement, so any confidence in the people they've invited to speak is lost.

The venue wouldn't be sure that there'd be no more surprises in store. Much safer to can the whole thing

A shame that one stupid man has spoiled it for everyone, even so: using last year as an example, topics such as HSE Infant Feeding Standards; donor breast milk; the role of voluntary breastfeeding organisations; the WHO Code on marketing breastmilk substitutes; induced lactation following surrogacy (the speaker was a woman who talked about her own personal experience of inducing lactation for a baby born via surrogacy); and medication use during breastfeeding are all of them important, and he's silenced all the people who might be interested in doing their jobs rather than pandering to child abusers.

I'm going to quite strongly disagree with you that "induced lactation following surrogacy" is an important* topic. But maybe a topic for another thread.

If that list is the list of topics that the same conference had last year - it demonstrates my point above that the organisers have terrible judgement and there could be more scandals to unearth.

Even donor breastmilk is at best a neutral thing - because it is difficult to feel reassured about where/who it's come from, the vast majority of mothers would far prefer to use formula - and once you open the floodgates of breastmilk coming from anyone but the baby's mother, it can lead down the road we've just tread in the original post.

Edit to add - i assumed you meant important for lactation consultants to be trained on. But if you meant, important in the context of the bewildering priority of "inclusion" over babies' well-being, then yes, i agree

I am opposed to surrogacy, but still feel that it might be better for the unfortunate baby at least to have breast milk even if it has been ripped away from its mother more or less at birth.

When I had a baby in the SCBU and more milk than he could easily make use of they asked whether I would express some for babies whose mothers were unable to feed them immediately, and I was happy to do so, so I suppose I was being a breast-milk donor at that point. I think a lot depends on circumstances, for all these things. Except men feeding babies pus; that is abhorrent no matter when or where.

That's really kind of you to express breastmilk and donate it but I'm surprised the hospital gave it to the babies unless you expressed it in hospital. (They couldn't guarantee that someone could have added something to it or simply not stored it correctly etc). But I agree that donor breastmilk is a lovely thing if we can get over those issues.

However, induced lactation following surrogacy is just wild. The baby already has a mother, whose breasts will be getting engorged after just giving birth. At least use the surrogate as a breastmilk donor!

I'm glad the hotel have cancelled but I'm not convinced the event itself won't still go ahead but somewhere else. Given the statement they put out they clearly don't see anything wrong with helping men indulge their paedophile fetishes 😠

the overall organisers have been shown to have terrible judgement

Yes, perhaps it will remind ALCI to research their speakers next time. This kind of enabling of an abuse apologist is not a good look for any organization. Shame on them for inviting such a disgusting man in the first place (and I do not use the word "disgusting " in the general, oft overused sense that many in Britain use it for. I sincerely hope that a reason can be found in the US to subpoena his devices, because I do not believe that there is smoke here without fire).

I am livid over this, you can probably tell. Glad that it has been cancelled. Serves them right.

"ALCI recognises that questions relating to gender, identity and breastfeeding may generate strongly held and differing views."

How very disingenuous of them. I don't believe that most people have been complaining about "gender, identity and breastfeeding" but, rather, the enabling of a speaker who wants to talk about "sexual gratification" as a reason some men might want to "breastfeed."

I don't think ALCI has any idea what a minefield they are walking into. Again, shame on them if they refuse to see this man for who he is and what he is so clearly happy to advocate.

Saying the quiet part aloud, indeed!

I also note that we have had zero interest on this thread from the Usual Suspects. Does no one want to post here in support of this "lactation consultant?" No one? No? 🤔

(I wonder why?)