Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton, following Employment Tribunal judgment - thread #62

I'll add that I had an appointment at the Vic the day after the original verdict and a newspaper front page which celebrated it as a win for Sandie was very prominently displayed in the hospital shop.

I said on one of the previous threads that I had to have a procedure at Queen Margaret Hospital Dunfermline, and one of the nurses there asked me about some of the nonsense that was going on in Fife schools. (I still had 'teacher' down as my profession at the time and a doctor had asked whether I needed a sick note.)

She had children in a Fife high school and the Dunfermline Press had carried an article about two girls demanding gender neutral toilets. One was a 'trans boy'; the other was 'non-binary'.

The trans boy complained that she got dysphoria in the girls' toilets and said that she couldn't use boys' toilets because knowing that she wasn't the same as the boys would trigger her dysphoria.

The nurse made sure that no one else could hear the conversation because she didn't want to get into trouble.

Fife social media is interesting. Everyone I know is pro-Sandie. (I'm talking about Fife and - just over the county line - Kinross.)

The negative comments I see attached to articles on FB don't appear to come from Fifers.

@nauticant is the plan for this separate but linked legal case to be commented on/live posted here or will you (or do you want someone else to) start a new series of threads?

Yes I imagine so, there might be a “reading day” or other day when the court doesn’t sit for whatever reason.

Thread 62 - you deserve a medal nauti

Thank you 😀

In that case it might mean four days in that week but not necessarily Monday to Thursday?

I remember a discussion at school about whether the week started on Sunday or Monday. It’s partly religious, but there were arguments for both.
That was a long time ago, though.

I guess that means “week commencing 27 Sept”

I've noticed 'boring' being used dismissively in other contexts too -
if you [one] find things that matter deeply, personally, ethically and professionally to other people 'boring' it says more about you than about the issue, doesn't it?
Words like 'shallow' and 'unable to see past your own nose' suggest themselves to me.

'I haven't followed the case which I personally find difficult and complicated, so I'm going to leave it to the people involved to pursue the matter to a fair and equitable conclusion'

? No, I can't hear it being said either, 'Boring' involves a lot less effort..😒

Just me or anyone else hoping for an Isla Bumba return, purely for the entertainment value?

(call it gallows humour - not meaning to mock the gravity of the actual situation)

I imagine that Jennifer Melle & the Darlington nurses will be able to give evidence that they were not supported by the RCN either showing that it’s an endemic problem with the RCN refusing to support GC members & not just a local issue for Sandie Peggie. The RCN cannot blame Sandie’s treatment on a rogue local rep when it’s clear the RCN is institutionally biased against GC members.

I wonder what that ex RCN employee will reveal

Interesting that an ex RCN employee will appear as a witness for Sandie.

sounds like Jennifer Melle and/or the Darlington nurses may appear but I wonder if that could lead to the arguments that its "a different health board", "different country", "different situation"...from the respondents.

The supportive comments are the ones getting the upvotes.

Thanks for posting this.
Reading the comments under the article, some people are getting the slurs in early- it’s apparently all about the money- and ‘getting boring’ - get your bingo cards ready

I have emailed to ask for the case number and details of how to request remote access to the hearing. Will post the response when I get it.

From the Courier piece, it sounds as though the witnesses for Peggie will be vv interesting!

"An ex-RCN employee is set to appear as a witness for Ms Peggie.

The nurse’s legal team is also putting forward two other women who are suing the trade union over alleged gender critical discrimination."

Thank you very much, @WearyAuldWumman .

The article says “ a further four days have been penned in for September 27 onwards.”

That’s dedication. September 27 is a Sunday.

Thank you for this!

<Blocks out 23 September - 1 October in diary>

This just came up in my feed.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/politics/5555624/nhs-fife-sandie-peggie-case-trade-union/#Echobox=1786858045

When is Peggie vs RCN due to be heard and is there the opportunity to observe remotely?

Sorry, I should have read that before posting!

Yes I meant that as no claims have been upheld, there is nothing substantial for the GMC to investigate, and there probably won't be any new outcome for the next year.

Almost worth signing up to X for. Well not really but you get the sentiment!

Do you mean in the tribunal or with the gmc because the gmc are refusing to investigate him whilst the tribunal case is still going through the crts