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STOP MIS GENDERING ME JUST SAY SHE

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RogueFemale · 22/07/2026 22:04

In case anyone has missed this prize example of a mentally ill adult male exhibiting trans entitlement.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 01:47

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 01:45

Because I presented a scenario you don't want to see here?

Because it’s hackneyed emotional blackmail.

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 01:47

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 01:45

This board is an education in more ways than one.

Women are not required to be nice, polite girls to post here. We can speak our minds and sometimes that means sometimes we are blunt or even rude, some of us more than others (looks at self).

We are strident in our beliefs, because we are correct, backed up with well evidenced arguments and some of the posters have spent around two decades arguing with entitled and aggressive men about our right to exist as a separate sex class apart from male people, fighting off appropriation of our words, names, spaces, rights, places, awards, groups, lesbianism, prisons, rape crisis centres, and on and on and ON AND ON.

We are rightfully pretty fucked off.

No one is calling you stupid.

However, your arguments are weak, not backed up with evidence, or in the law. They would disadvantage women and girls.

Clearly you didn't read the board a bit first to see what we generally think, you just came wading in with incorrect statements of the law, and told us what you incorrectly believe we think. Then you refused to be told you were wrong. Do you know how many men come here to do the exact same thing? Who use almost exactly the same arguments? All the bloody time. Not surprising then that makes some people think you are yet another TRA man who's come to poke at the women, don't you think?

There's a difference between engaging with the content of the posts and the tone, maybe try playing the ball in future, not the player as it were. So actually engage in good faith with the content of the posts, and remember which board you're posting on instead of just getting shirty because someone's flashed a bit of snark at your arguably provocative posts which are in favour of Self ID for trans identifying men.

Edited for spelling.

Edited

Ok, I'll take most of that

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 01:47

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 01:27

What about women who idenify as men? I'm hearing little about this aspect

This has also been done to death, read the board.

Or start a new thread, this is totally off topic IMO.

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 01:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 01:47

Because it’s hackneyed emotional blackmail.

No, that's just it, it's not, it's a real scenario

Catiette · 24/07/2026 01:48

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 01:42

That depends entirely on the context. It can certainly be abusive

Dammit. One more.

It can be abusive because we live in a culture that has decided it can.

Thought experiment.

Somewhere in the multiverse, there's a version of reality in which it's seen as utterly, disgustingly offensive to women, to call a man a woman. It - people argue there - totally devalues what women are, leaving them without so much as a word of their own! It's the very height of rudeness, politically problematic (women are a category in their own right, after all!) and - frankly - democratically questionable (it silences them entirely, leaving them unable even to refer to themselves to argue for their own rights, FFS!). Children are told not to do it at school. Some adults even argue it should be illegal. At one point, the word "transwoman" was suggested as a cautious compromise - but even that was rejected, as it was still felt to be somewhat abusive to women to dilute what they are even to that degree. In the end, a different word entirely was used (take your imaginary pick).

Do you see my point?

Look beyond the surface - as you said yourself, it's really not black and white, and you're still arguing in black and white terms.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 01:49

Not for me it isn’t. I’m not interested in why sob stories about men and boys are more important than women and girls. You’re maybe not conscious that’s what you’re doing, but you are.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 01:58

As a victim/survivor both of rape and sexual assault and coercive control, I really have a problem with the amount of gaslighting trans rights activists do. “There is no conflict of rights because trans women are women and trans rights are women’s rights” “why are you upset if a woman is in the next cubicle to you” “why do you think they’ll be interested in your body in the changing room”. It’s profoundly empathy free and misogynistic.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 02:00

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 01:48

No, that's just it, it's not, it's a real scenario

And you ignored all the posters who told you that it wasn't a hypothetical situation for them, and how they handled it - with compassion and love (obviously!), no gender stereotypes, and the truth that no one can change sex, and no one has the right to compel others to subscribe to their belief.

Along with the putting words in GC women's mouths, this ignoring of posters responses outlining their beliefs is another thing that makes me personally wonder if you are actually a TRA trying to masquerade as a slightly naive woman.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 02:04

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 01:58

As a victim/survivor both of rape and sexual assault and coercive control, I really have a problem with the amount of gaslighting trans rights activists do. “There is no conflict of rights because trans women are women and trans rights are women’s rights” “why are you upset if a woman is in the next cubicle to you” “why do you think they’ll be interested in your body in the changing room”. It’s profoundly empathy free and misogynistic.

I know it's hard to tell with text, but I'll be honest, I detected a hint of glee at the suggestion that a trans identified male could be in the cubicle next to me in the "ladies" and "you wouldn't know!".

I agree it's gaslighting, empathy free, and misogynistic.

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 02:05

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 02:06

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 02:04

I know it's hard to tell with text, but I'll be honest, I detected a hint of glee at the suggestion that a trans identified male could be in the cubicle next to me in the "ladies" and "you wouldn't know!".

I agree it's gaslighting, empathy free, and misogynistic.

So did I.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 02:07

Plenty of people who could be described as TRAs are female.

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 02:08

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 02:04

I know it's hard to tell with text, but I'll be honest, I detected a hint of glee at the suggestion that a trans identified male could be in the cubicle next to me in the "ladies" and "you wouldn't know!".

I agree it's gaslighting, empathy free, and misogynistic.

You what now? No you didn't. I was making a factual point not being gleeful. You're seeing what you want to see to believe what you want to believe. That's fine. Carry on.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 02:19

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Telling people to shut the fuck up is against guidelines, but it's ok, you can vent at me online if it makes you feel better. But remember, play the ball not the player silly!

If you find it offensive you need to toughen up a bit quite frankly. Get over yourself.

I've been mistaken for a boy/man a few times IRL (and I assume online too), it's made me laugh every time because it's become quickly apparent to the other person that I am a woman. They were all embarrassed, I was totally unphased except for finding it a little bit funny.
I am pretty gender non conforming, I don't identify as anything, but I know my sex. I mostly wear practical clothes so I can just get on with life. So trousers and t-shirts/jumpers, I hardly ever wear an outfit with a skirt because I don't like the draught, and for longer skirts I will quite likely manage to tangle my legs in it at some point because I am clumsy. I sometimes cut my hair really short when it starts to fuck me off too much, but mostly wear it tied back or up. I rarely wear makeup, and never wear jewellery anymore because I do things which would make it a hazard. I like my fingers attached to my hands, my earlobes untorn, and to not be caught on something by the chain of a necklace.

Who cares if someone mis-sexes you, or disbelieves you online? Ever think it's because of the content of your posts, and that there is something you are doing to give that impression?

A good safety lesson for online is that anyone can say they are anything or any one. In other words, don't believe everything you read.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 02:20

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 02:07

Plenty of people who could be described as TRAs are female.

This is sadly very true though.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 02:26

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 02:20

This is sadly very true though.

Not that most of the men are particularly appreciative or grateful for their ally efforts all that much. I mean maybe the ones who totally beclown themselves for the cause, the Kate Nash types. But the average “caring” woman will be cast out if she so much dares to have a single doubt that maybe there should be some attention to biological sex.

nolongersurprised · 24/07/2026 02:27

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 01:27

What about women who idenify as men? I'm hearing little about this aspect

They can enter women’s spaces, because they are women. This isn’t hard

CohensDiamondTeeth · 24/07/2026 02:44

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 02:26

Not that most of the men are particularly appreciative or grateful for their ally efforts all that much. I mean maybe the ones who totally beclown themselves for the cause, the Kate Nash types. But the average “caring” woman will be cast out if she so much dares to have a single doubt that maybe there should be some attention to biological sex.

Also, and sadly, very true!

Men's misogyny is writ large through this movement, I feel particularly sorry for the trans identifying females who find the sexism unchanged after their "transition".

It just goes to show that everyone really knows what sex everyone else actually is, and it becomes pretty hard to ignore how this ideology benefits some adult males, while disadvantaging a large proportion of vulnerable men, some of whom like the man in the video in the OP are possibly very mentally unwell, and boys within the movement, but disadvantages all women and girls whether they consider themselves GI adherents, GC, or somewhere in that "Be kind with limits" sort of limbo phase we all went through, before TRAs opened our eyes, told us to "educate ourselves" and we peak-ed.

Edit: Apologies, the grammar is terrible! It's one long run on sentence, and I'm not even going to attempt to fix it. I need to take my own advice and breathe 😆

ElenOfTheWays · 24/07/2026 04:51

DetectiveDouche · 23/07/2026 23:50

i dunno.. maybe the ones that have done it so successfully that you don't know the difference?

Well now. That's a problem right there.
Blair White for example. I know he's open about being trans but some people definitely think he "passes" and if he was stealth no one would guess. I don't agree. Having seen him walking across a room in a video clip it was immediately obvious he wasn't female.

If not everyone agrees that someone trans "passes" then that criteria falls apart.

All this not helped by the fact that many trans identified men believe they pass when, in fact, they don't fool anyone.

ElenOfTheWays · 24/07/2026 05:22

DetectiveDouche · 24/07/2026 01:45

Because I presented a scenario you don't want to see here?

Because if you weren't new, you'd know that there are a number of women posting on this board who have faced/are facing the scenario you posited.

It's discussed fairly regularly on here both from a personal POV and in the general child safeguarding

ElenOfTheWays · 24/07/2026 05:26

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2026 01:47

Because it’s hackneyed emotional blackmail.

That too hence the 🎻

SodThisHeadache · 24/07/2026 05:39

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 23/07/2026 22:27

I see ChatGPT finally came through for you! Congratulations!

Did it tell you that the protected characteristic of "gender reassignment" means that a man who is "gender reassigned" cannot be treated any worse than a man who isn't "gender reassigned?"

The comparator to a trans-identified person is a non-trans-identified person OF THE SAME SEX.

If we can call a man a man, we can also call a "transwoman" a man because THEY ARE BOTH MEN.

And you cannot refuse to give one man a job simply because he is trans-identified, if you would have given it to him if he had not been trans-identified.

There are more examples, but that's all it means.

There is NO LAW that says that we cannot call a "transwoman" a man.

If you have find any more laws, please do let us know.

As was explained to Douche pages ago
I don't think Douche is happy about what the law says so has deflected and now is giving us lots of laughing faces.

Edited to say: Douche now seems to have admitted (possibly) their error

SodThisHeadache · 24/07/2026 05:43

nolongersurprised · 24/07/2026 02:27

They can enter women’s spaces, because they are women. This isn’t hard

And @Douche, you've been speaking to at least one such women here on this very thread, but you are so sure about your preconceptions about us that you may never have considered this

nolongersurprised · 24/07/2026 06:06

In summary, Douche the problem is MEN in women’s spaces.

This includes the ones who call themselves women and incorporates the forlorn, sad ones, the blue-wigged tantrumy ones, the ones who are made up like actresses and the ones who think they pass as women. All of them.

You seem to differentiate between the performatively “feminine” who are ok, and the presumed mentally unwell ones such as the blue-wigged ones but they are all men. The TiMs you are advocating for would call you transphobic for this.

You want to turn women’s spaces into mixed-sex spaces and you call this being inclusive.

Seethlaw · 24/07/2026 06:26

Oh dear...

Step 1: Main player in the conversation says they are going to bed. Jump on opportunity to go to bed myself.
Step 2: Sleep.
Step 3: Wake up to 100+ comments on thread.

You ladies didn't go to bed, did you 😂?

So anyway. @DetectiveDouche , here's the basic info about GC women I'd love for you to accept:

GC people have no problem with trans people existing.
GC people do NOT believe that women "feel" like women, or men feel like men.
GC people do NOT believe that women should perform femininity, and men masculinity - it's the opposite in fact: GC people believe that everyone should feel free to perform however they want gender-wise.
GC people are all about sex, not gender.

These are the basics. If you don't accept/understand them, you can't understand where the women around here come from.

PS: I'm the resident transman around here 👋Feel free to ask me any question you might have, in this thread, on any other, or even in PM.