Linehan tweeting misogyny and racism now

There is only one biological framework with regard to sex and that is based on gametes and how they fits into the concept of evolution by natural selection.
I might be a sheeple but at least I'm a biologist sheeple.

Thanks for your unqualified opinion. But the bi modal spectrum is scientifically uncontroversial.

"The human body develops through a complex cascade of genetic and hormonal events. While traditional models often reduce biological sex exclusively to gamete production (producing either large ova or small sperm), this approach can be too rigid to account for all human bodies in reality. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Variations in sex traits—often referred to collectively as intersex or differences in sex development (DSD)—mean that an individual’s chromosomes, hormones, and anatomy do not always align with a single category. The bimodal spectrum embraces this physical reality, recognizing that biological sex is a multifactorial combination of traits with observable, naturally occurring variance. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]"

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The ProSocial Core Processes provide a practical way to understand and reshape the systems that influence our lives, such as politics, economics, and culture.

Rather than relying on fixed ideas, these processes encourage creative thinking about our ever-changing world. When used in group settings, they help build stronger connections and shared goals, bringing people together across different movements and sectors to tackle common challenges. These processes blend personal growth, skill-building, open dialogue, and hands-on learning to inspire both reflection and action."

So, not actual scientists, "creative thinkers" with a mission to "reshape the system". Maybe you need to be a little bit more critical of the sources your use.

Are they even off yet in England?

An article on a site called 'pro social world'. I would guess there is a bias here, even if one guy is a professor in biology.

If you are plotting a male/female “spectrum” with bi-modal distribution, what variable is on the x-axis?

Bi-modal theorising about sex categories has arisen from post-modern social sciences playing with ideas.

These include a desire to remove or blur distinctions between male and female in order to break down boundaries.

It has not arisen from actual science which is about understanding how things work.

We understand that the process of human foetal development is an immensely complex cascade of events. But it results in unambiguous sex 99.98% of the time.

This is not a bi-modal distribution. You are using a tiny number of cases where something has gone wrong in the process to argue that sex itself is not binary.

Unless you are making the proposition that
“big tits make you more female” or “a big dick makes you more male” and other such nonsense.

I love all these posts pretending that biological sex is oh-so complicated. People must imagine themselves terribly clever and sophisticated compared to us dunces who think there are only two sexes.

And yet...everyone in daily life knows perfectly well when they meet someone new whether they are a man or a woman. Any country in the world that wants to deny women the right to vote, or to own property, or to have the same pay as men, has no trouble at all working out who those people are. Amazingly, when the Taliban wants to stop girls from going to school, it doesn't have any difficulty knowing who's a girl and who isn't.

Isn't that strange? Almost as if biological sex isn't the slightest bit complicated at all, and people who say it is are talking out of their rear ends.

This is one of their "Initiatives":
"Spirituality
ProSocial Spirituality provides tools for groups to deepen their connection, foster collaboration, and work towards shared goals. By blending evolutionary and behavioral science with contemplative spirituality, the initiative offers a transformative approach to personal and collective growth."

I can't find on the page if they peer review, I somewhat doubt it.

I'm not sure what the point of your post is OP. Do you want us to tell him off or something?

I suspect someone is butt-hurt about Linehan's recent apology from the Met and £25000 payout.

Ah yes, gotcha

His milkshake brings ALL THE BOYS to the yard.

Welcome to Mumsnet OP. I think we welcomed Whispering the other day?

Always interesting to see "new" posters taking the opportunity to wheel out some of the tired old tropes that we repeatedly see on here as they try to 'educate' women to their way of thinking.

Hopefully a good night's sleep (wherever you are) and a cup of chamomile tea this morning might cure any grumpiness and fire those brain cells into action. 😉

Graham Linehan can be a bit of an arsehole therefore men can be women.

HTH

"if we want to be a serious country with law & order, anything short of outright abolishment of the 19th amendment would be a grave half-measure".
What exactly am I misunderstanding here?

A joke relying on hyperbole q.v. "A MODEST PROPOSAL For preventing the children of poor people in Ireland, from being a burden on their parents or country, and for making them beneficial to the public by Dr. Jonathan Swift"

Yes, 2+2 absolutely makes 5 if you say so. Enjoy.

Sorry, but that's empirically not true. Look it up literally anywhere. She is not trans.

You are correct that he is not trans as he is a male with a DSD but apparently you don't know what a DSD is. It's an acronym for Difference (or Disorder) of Sexual Development. His genitals were thought to be female at birth but he went through male puberty which is why he is so much stronger than a female boxer.

"if we want to be a serious country with law & order, anything short of outright abolishment of the 19th amendment would be a grave half-measure".
The 19th amendment allowed women to vote in America. Is that statement also not misogynist?

It's a joke. It's obvious from the hyperbole of "a grave half-measure". Funnily enough a sense of humour failure seems to go with the TRA territory.

Good luck with your fantasy biological framework.

Next thing you’ll be telling us is that the completeness of real numbers means that binary arithmetic doesn’t exist.

Here's something else you've got wrong. You've already been corrected about slavery, but I also object to the way you have written out of history the huge contribution of migrant Irish workers to the building not just of Brunel's structures, but vast amounts of the UK's infrastructure.
Brunel Museum Shines A Light On The Irish Workers Who Built The Thames Tunnel | Londonist

There's even a contemporaneous funny song called The Humours of Whiskey that mentions Brunel:
And what helped Mr. Brunnell to build the Thames Tunnel
Wasn't it poteen from ould Inisowen

and the more recent Building up and tearing England down:

But the likes of you and me will never get the O.B.E
Or a knighthood for good service to the hod
It's the concrete master race
That would keep you in your place
And a ganger man to kick you to the ground
If you ever try to take part of what the bosses made
When you're building up and tearing England down.

and McAlpine's Fusiliers:
I've worked till the sweat near had me bet
With Russian, Czech and Pole
At shuttering jams up in the Hydro Dams
or underneath the Thames in a hole
I grafted hard and I got me cards
and many a ganger's fist across me ears
If you pride your life, don't join, by Christ, with McAlpine's Fusiliers.

Is that enough evidence, GiddyGiddyGiddy, for you to amend your claim about who it was who 'helped Mr Brunnel to build the Thames Tunnel' etc and correct the record about the huge role of Irish workers in 'building up and tearing England down'?

Yep, I think I will go with the stupendous amount of knowledge on this subject of Sir Robert Winston who has stated categorically that there are only two sexes and it is impossible for humans to change sex.

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Aqueducts?

The coin doesn't even mention race - but even if it did... Brunel's structures were built by slaves brought in through Bristol.

You are obviously not in the UK otherwise you would know that slavery was never really a thing here besides which Britain abolished slavery in 1833 & the vast majority of Brunel's structures were erected after that date.

Finally he is laughing at the coin because it is almost literally a meaningless token just like the phrase (OK it is worth 50p).

The UK has only become diverse in very recent times for example when I was born in 1953 there were only about 20,000-30,000 black people in Britain & perhaps 10,000-15,000 Asians. The figures now are about 2.5 million black people & nearly 6 million of Asian heritage.

Oh my goodness you think this is a new trick.

Im embarrassed for you.

I am always tickled by the suggestion that it is GC people who are in a cult.

Makes total sense doesn't it? The people whose position is rooted in long established scientific understanding of mammalian biology. Based on what's been understood as the primary distinction in humans since the dawn of time.

That just screams 'cult', doesn't it?

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