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Cameron Diaz “has third child” aged 53

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Namingbaba · 06/05/2026 17:00

It worries me that some people just read headlines like this and think all these women have children naturally. At least that’s the impression I got from reading the comments on this story. The surrogacy sometimes isn’t even mentioned.

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likelysuspect · 18/09/2026 19:11

Really disappointed with that one

elgreco · 18/09/2026 20:15

Its getting far too fashionable

Catcentral · 19/09/2026 05:44

Gengha · 18/09/2026 13:58

What annoys me is when people think the person who contributed the genetic material is the “biological mother”. In my book the biological mother is the woman who carries and gives birth to the baby. The baby doesn’t know where its genes come from but it does know the voice and heartbeat of the woman who carried them.

Science and common sense show that the contributor of biological material is the biological mother

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Namingbaba · 19/09/2026 07:42

Remember when female celebrities were heavily criticised for choosing elective C-sections and being too posh to push? Obviously I disapprove of that but the shift from that level of scrutiny to the mainstream acceptance of surrogacy is strange, especially given how many high profile cases seem more driven by preference than medical need.

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RareGoalsVerge · 19/09/2026 07:54

Catcentral · 19/09/2026 05:44

Science and common sense show that the contributor of biological material is the biological mother

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The single cell egg containing the DNA comes from the genetic mother. The single sperm that successfully fertilises that egg comes from.the father.

Every single one of the other roughly 350 octillion atoms in a newborn baby is supplied from the bloodstream of the gestating mother, either from food she has digested or (particularly in the calcium for the baby's bones) from her body actually pulling the required elements out of her own biological structures to give to the growing baby. That is surely a very biological process!

Personally I suspect its best not to use the term biological mother at all unless the genetic mother and the gestating mother are the same person - in which case she definitely is the biological mother.

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Namingbaba · 19/09/2026 10:59

Lalgarh · 19/09/2026 10:05

Helen Lewis has written a piece in the Atlantic about it, including a conference aimed at aspiring single dads.

Hope the share gift works

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/10/usa-commercial-surrogacy-industry/688357/?gift=zxpu9ZCaDPuLBf5GDnVHRRD8s8AXIe4FqpTA8DqkfEU&utm_source=copy-link&utmmedium=social&utmcampaign=share

I didn't realise Kim Kardashian had also used a surrogate

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Thanks for sharing. It’s interesting that red states have stricter laws on surrogacy and it’s the left wing which are more enthusiastic. The left wing thinks they’re so pro-woman but it’s a myth.

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Gengha · 19/09/2026 11:04

Catcentral · 19/09/2026 05:44

Science and common sense show that the contributor of biological material is the biological mother

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The law is that the person who gives birth is the biological and the legal mother. Seems a lot more common sense to me as there’s a lot more to creating and growing a baby than providing the genes.

Lalgarh · 19/09/2026 11:09

There was a debate the other week in parliament instigated by 2 men who'd used surrogates to change the legal status of the commissioning party so that they're named as legal parent automatically at birth but it failed

Pingponghavoc · 19/09/2026 11:29

Celebrities are used to sell products. Makes no difference if its lip gloss, political opinions or social issues. Celebs could just disappear for a year and announce the birth of their baby, but they somehow need to make everyone aware they used surrogacy.

Its a smart move here because as more and more celebrities use surrogacy, fewer people can speak up. Fans will naturally support them, people who rely on them for their income wont say anything. They have famous friends to wont want to hurt them.

The discussion between the ethics of the process and the individuals involved becomes too complex.

Catcentral · 19/09/2026 12:40

Gengha · 19/09/2026 11:04

The law is that the person who gives birth is the biological and the legal mother. Seems a lot more common sense to me as there’s a lot more to creating and growing a baby than providing the genes.

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That isnt the law in all countries

AMatterOfInfiniteHope · 20/09/2026 14:08

millie bobbi brown has announced that she has adopted another baby. Along with her husband.

I’d initially thought - after the last adoption - that it was just that, but I wonder if it’s actually surrogacy. And if not that maybe adoption from abroad which is largely also a monetary/business transaction. Poor babies and birth mothers if that is the case.

The word adoption is being used on line and also on the BBC/ other news outlets. So I guess it is just that.

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 14:36

Lalgarh · 20/09/2026 10:36

Courtesy another poster in the Janice Turner thread on surrogacy, Beloved Children's Entertainer (TM) Ms Rachel also had a child by surrogacy

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/sep/20/ms-rachel-the-queen-of-toddler-tv-interview

She sounds like an idiot and a political groomer to be honest

All too good to be true isnt she. Something will come acropper.

Lalgarh · 20/09/2026 16:20

Yes there is a sort of forced jollity to the point of mania about her which might just because she's American but even sesame street was never this cloying.

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 19:26

Lalgarh · 20/09/2026 16:20

Yes there is a sort of forced jollity to the point of mania about her which might just because she's American but even sesame street was never this cloying.

Ive always been suspicious of these types but that Ruby Franke stuff has ramped up my cynicism ten fold.

NibliaBiblia · 21/09/2026 00:19

Gengha · 18/09/2026 13:58

What annoys me is when people think the person who contributed the genetic material is the “biological mother”. In my book the biological mother is the woman who carries and gives birth to the baby. The baby doesn’t know where its genes come from but it does know the voice and heartbeat of the woman who carried them.

Yes 100% agree. The genetic mother who provides the egg is important too, most people want to know their genetic background, but she is not the biological mother.

Catcentral · 21/09/2026 00:26

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 14:36

She sounds like an idiot and a political groomer to be honest

All too good to be true isnt she. Something will come acropper.

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What a miserable outlook on life.
How is she an.'idiot'?

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