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Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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ArabellaScott · 12/09/2026 22:33

Ruhroh.

SwirlyGates · 13/09/2026 10:42

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 12/09/2026 22:11

So nothing to do with him being elected into a female only role, even though he's a male. Omnicause first, women's rights never. 😤

If they're blaming his social media posts (which are, let's be honest, bad enough in themselves to warrant his removal), why on earth don't they check people's posts routinely? It's not like they were hard to find.

(More likely, I guess, they knew about this all along and thought he'd fit right in, until the media got wind of him and they didn't want to back him publicly.)

Lalgarh · 13/09/2026 10:49

Remember Mr Molly who was so crazy that the Scottish Greens had to get him out.

Sophie Molly aka Euan Weddell aka pot noodle is a whole storm system of his own and I'm wondering if it's only a matter of time before Folan joins his fetid polycule.

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2026 10:54

What happens when people are booted from the Greens for being too unsavoury? Where do they go?

Lalgarh · 13/09/2026 11:23

Your Party are still knocking around.

Or there's Galloway's lot, but they're not LGBTQ friendly

Chersfrozenface · 13/09/2026 11:23

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2026 10:54

What happens when people are booted from the Greens for being too unsavoury? Where do they go?

Once there are enough of them they could form their own party/movement.

Though judging by their past actions and the sad history of the polycule, it would last rather less time than Your Party.

fromorbit · 13/09/2026 11:27

SwirlyGates · 13/09/2026 10:42

If they're blaming his social media posts (which are, let's be honest, bad enough in themselves to warrant his removal), why on earth don't they check people's posts routinely? It's not like they were hard to find.

(More likely, I guess, they knew about this all along and thought he'd fit right in, until the media got wind of him and they didn't want to back him publicly.)

Folan has had some of his crazy abusive posts reported to the Greens for years. They didn't need to go look. Thing is there are so many messed up Greens they have a backlog.

The timing on Folan's suspension is clearly connected to the higher profile of winning the position.

Thing is if Folan keeps digging it may have the side effect of undermining the suspensions of Green members who made the shocking crime of knowing biology.

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fromorbit · 13/09/2026 11:37

Lalgarh · 13/09/2026 11:23

Your Party are still knocking around.

Or there's Galloway's lot, but they're not LGBTQ friendly

SWP would be perfect.

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ArabellaScott · 13/09/2026 11:55

A sort of supergroup of Green Rejects.

It could catch on.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/09/2026 12:17

By the time you get to being rejected by the Greens you've been rejected by every other party already so there's nowhere else to go, so you might as well start your own, perhaps they could be the Rainbow Party,

Chersfrozenface · 13/09/2026 12:23

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/09/2026 12:17

By the time you get to being rejected by the Greens you've been rejected by every other party already so there's nowhere else to go, so you might as well start your own, perhaps they could be the Rainbow Party,

I would prefer My Little Party.

Lalgarh · 13/09/2026 23:28

Oops it's happened again

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/09/12/second-green-deputy-leader-also-landlord-despite-ban/

Millward earns approx £5000 / year letting out rooms in the family home. That's small fry in the grand scheme of things really, but I realise how that looks. Now all we need is Polanski to have some landlord moolah and it'll be all 3. Full house, as it were

RedToothBrush · 16/09/2026 15:11

I love count bin face on Holborn

https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2099874842291945807

He talks about standing against four prime ministers and for London mayor twice and only one of those opponents has refused to shake hands. He then goes on to say he sees it as his duty to stand against major political leaders and that's why he's announcing he will NOT be standing in Holborn.

Count Binface (@CountBinface) on X

I have an announcement.

https://x.com/CountBinface/status/2099874842291945807

ArabellaScott · 16/09/2026 16:39

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/09/2026 12:17

By the time you get to being rejected by the Greens you've been rejected by every other party already so there's nowhere else to go, so you might as well start your own, perhaps they could be the Rainbow Party,

Rainbow Greens are perhaps already fulfilling that function.

fromorbit · 17/09/2026 10:44

By - election heating up:
Zack Polanski suffers big blow as George Galloway stands in Holborn by-election
Chris Williamson resigns as Deputy Leader of the Workers Party of Britain over this

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/zack-polanski-george-galloway-holborn-pancras-byelection-green-b1297287.html

Oh no the Worker's party have a split!

Meanwhile within the Greens the Gaza/Israel divisions are having an effect

Green party activists turn on ‘genocide denier’ Zack Polanski
In a campaign call to arms, Young Greens co-chair and Care4Calais volunteer Jo Dowbar told a party chat: ‘We’re not getting enough volunteers… We’re particularly short of multilingual speakers to, so those are encouraged.’
https://archive.is/4hGhi

The election falls on Oct 8th. Green conference dominated with the anti Israel motion with a side order of misogyny is weekend before.

Zack Polanski suffers big blow as George Galloway stands in Holborn by-election

Chris Williamson resigns as Deputy Leader of the Workers Party of Britain over Mr Galloway’s decision to contest the north London by-election

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/zack-polanski-george-galloway-holborn-pancras-byelection-green-b1297287.html

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fromorbit · 17/09/2026 10:54

Same anti women stuff in Green party Haringey as in Bristol and other places.

Former Labour councillor hounded out of debate by abusive trans activists
Emina Ibrahim had gone to present a petition urging Haringey council to preserve single-sex spaces for survivors of domestic violence
Tehseen Khan, a Green Party councillor and cabinet member, posted his praise for the trans activists on social media the day after the meeting.
https://archive.is/hMvTy

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RedToothBrush · 17/09/2026 10:59

fromorbit · 17/09/2026 10:44

By - election heating up:
Zack Polanski suffers big blow as George Galloway stands in Holborn by-election
Chris Williamson resigns as Deputy Leader of the Workers Party of Britain over this

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/zack-polanski-george-galloway-holborn-pancras-byelection-green-b1297287.html

Oh no the Worker's party have a split!

Meanwhile within the Greens the Gaza/Israel divisions are having an effect

Green party activists turn on ‘genocide denier’ Zack Polanski
In a campaign call to arms, Young Greens co-chair and Care4Calais volunteer Jo Dowbar told a party chat: ‘We’re not getting enough volunteers… We’re particularly short of multilingual speakers to, so those are encouraged.’
https://archive.is/4hGhi

The election falls on Oct 8th. Green conference dominated with the anti Israel motion with a side order of misogyny is weekend before.

I saw this and chuckled.

Hypnotits and RussiaToday both chasing the insane left vote, with Count Binface blowing a raspberry in Hypnotits face in the process, was worth Starmer resigning for purely for the entertainment purposes of political nerds like me.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 17/09/2026 11:12

Haringey is my elderly Aunty's area, she's loonie left through and through and has been for 65 years, but she's a Red Loon not a Green one. I'll have to email her and ask if she knows what's going on in her council. 😂

Lalgarh · 17/09/2026 11:35

The last time I heard from Chris Williamson he was on R4 news a few days after the 7th October attacks claiming it was a deliberate false flag by Mossad. He's far more swivel eyed nutter than Galloway.

By the way did anyone see Peston last night on ITV? They'd had a focus group and asked for opinions on various political leaders and had a lib dem and Baroness Warsi guess which one they meant.

Lib dem Ed Davey had "well meaning" as his key standout description.

Kemi Badenoch had "untrustworthy"

Farage had "arrogant"

Polanski had "out of his depth", but the biggest one was "weird"

RedToothBrush · 17/09/2026 12:01

Lalgarh · 17/09/2026 11:35

The last time I heard from Chris Williamson he was on R4 news a few days after the 7th October attacks claiming it was a deliberate false flag by Mossad. He's far more swivel eyed nutter than Galloway.

By the way did anyone see Peston last night on ITV? They'd had a focus group and asked for opinions on various political leaders and had a lib dem and Baroness Warsi guess which one they meant.

Lib dem Ed Davey had "well meaning" as his key standout description.

Kemi Badenoch had "untrustworthy"

Farage had "arrogant"

Polanski had "out of his depth", but the biggest one was "weird"

Once upon a time he was a Labour MP.

Mind you you have people like former Tory MP Andrew Bridgen to balance it up and show the harms of reading too much shite on the internet.

DontStopMe · 17/09/2026 12:05

Lalgarh · 17/09/2026 11:35

The last time I heard from Chris Williamson he was on R4 news a few days after the 7th October attacks claiming it was a deliberate false flag by Mossad. He's far more swivel eyed nutter than Galloway.

By the way did anyone see Peston last night on ITV? They'd had a focus group and asked for opinions on various political leaders and had a lib dem and Baroness Warsi guess which one they meant.

Lib dem Ed Davey had "well meaning" as his key standout description.

Kemi Badenoch had "untrustworthy"

Farage had "arrogant"

Polanski had "out of his depth", but the biggest one was "weird"

I'm not sure what I'd come up with for Kemi Badenoch, but the others are spot on.

IwantToRetire · 17/09/2026 18:39

... Ms Ibrahim told The Telegraph: “There was lots of shouting. There was lots of use of the word ‘Terf’ [which stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminist]. It was clearly audible while we were inside the chamber – there were probably about 20 to 25 people outside.”

Ms Ibrahim told the council in her three-minute speech that, as a child, she had been placed in hotels with her family after they escaped domestic violence.

She said: “We were there alongside other women and girls, sharing facilities in circumstances where privacy and security were extremely limited. I remember women and girls having to stand guard at bathroom doors for one another, simply to protect our collective dignity.

“Single-sex provision isn’t an incidental feature of VAWG [violence against women and girls] services. For many women, it is an essential part of feeling safe enough to disclose what has happened to them, to rebuild trust, and to begin recovering from trauma.”

Tehseen Khan, a Green Party councillor and cabinet member, posted his praise for the trans activists on social media the day after the meeting.

He thanked protesters from the Dyke Project, who describe themselves as “a London-based trans and cis dyke collective fighting for trans liberation”.

In a video on X, he commended them for their “solidarity” in respect of “additional barriers that are experienced by some of our gender-diverse residents”.

He said: “I also want to say a big thanks to the residents that both came to support us inside the chamber, but also demonstrated outside together with the Dyke Project; your solidarity means so much. It’s people like you that make me proud to represent the people of Haringey.”

In the social-media clip that followed, Mr Khan, who is also a GP, said that “trans women are particularly likely to suffer with domestic violence and abuse” and that “by being more inclusive, we are trying to make sure that our services are responsive and that they cater to the needs of all our residents”. ...

Full article https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/09/16/former-labour-councillor-hounded-out-debate-abusive-trans/

and at https://archive.is/hMvTy

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/09/2026 19:34

I'm glad he's not my GP. He's relied on some very dodgy 'research' and claims around 80% of trans people suffer domestic abuse. I haven't looked into this but I saw someone saying on X that this is an old survey that asked for people to report what had happened to them. No possibility of substantiating the claims, and reports of being called a nasty name were treated as equivalent to being beaten up.

ArabellaScott · 17/09/2026 20:25

IwantToRetire · 17/09/2026 18:39

... Ms Ibrahim told The Telegraph: “There was lots of shouting. There was lots of use of the word ‘Terf’ [which stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminist]. It was clearly audible while we were inside the chamber – there were probably about 20 to 25 people outside.”

Ms Ibrahim told the council in her three-minute speech that, as a child, she had been placed in hotels with her family after they escaped domestic violence.

She said: “We were there alongside other women and girls, sharing facilities in circumstances where privacy and security were extremely limited. I remember women and girls having to stand guard at bathroom doors for one another, simply to protect our collective dignity.

“Single-sex provision isn’t an incidental feature of VAWG [violence against women and girls] services. For many women, it is an essential part of feeling safe enough to disclose what has happened to them, to rebuild trust, and to begin recovering from trauma.”

Tehseen Khan, a Green Party councillor and cabinet member, posted his praise for the trans activists on social media the day after the meeting.

He thanked protesters from the Dyke Project, who describe themselves as “a London-based trans and cis dyke collective fighting for trans liberation”.

In a video on X, he commended them for their “solidarity” in respect of “additional barriers that are experienced by some of our gender-diverse residents”.

He said: “I also want to say a big thanks to the residents that both came to support us inside the chamber, but also demonstrated outside together with the Dyke Project; your solidarity means so much. It’s people like you that make me proud to represent the people of Haringey.”

In the social-media clip that followed, Mr Khan, who is also a GP, said that “trans women are particularly likely to suffer with domestic violence and abuse” and that “by being more inclusive, we are trying to make sure that our services are responsive and that they cater to the needs of all our residents”. ...

Full article https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/09/16/former-labour-councillor-hounded-out-debate-abusive-trans/

and at https://archive.is/hMvTy

Jesus. Men coming out to side with the men and shout at women who have survived/escaped abuse.

It's gross.

Brave woman, Ms Ibrahim.