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Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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fromorbit · 18/06/2026 12:29

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2026 12:14

That’s what I thought! Worth a go, eh?

The correct wording to not have to pay is as follows it seems:

“I wish to make absolutely clear that there was never any intention on my part to evade council tax, avoid legal obligations, or obtain any improper financial advantage,”

“Any failure to appreciate the position arose solely from a misunderstanding of what was required in relation to an unusual and unconventional living arrangement.”
“I have personal experience of financial hardship and housing insecurity. Having lived through periods of economic difficulty on a limited income, I understand first-hand the challenges faced by many Londoners.
“My previous living arrangements reflected those circumstances rather than any attempt to avoid financial obligations.”

"greater care could have been taken in understanding the practical implications of my unconventional housing arrangements” “I strongly refute suggestions that my honesty or integrity should be called into question.”

Use it your own risk. It may not be the words, but ZPs incredible hypnotic powers which allow him to get away with this.

Also key - CHANGE your gender to being a man first. Do not try this kind of thing if you are a woman. The Rozzers will put you in jail:
Single mum unlawfully jailed for council tax debt in Wales

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/jan/18/single-mother-unlawfully-jailed-for-council-tax-debt-wales

Single mum unlawfully jailed for council tax debt in Wales

High court rules magistrates failed to assess unemployed mother’s financial means or consider her child’s position

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/jan/18/single-mother-unlawfully-jailed-for-council-tax-debt-wales

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2026 12:14

That’s what I thought! Worth a go, eh?

ArabellaScott · 18/06/2026 12:02

Are they usually so chill about non payment of CT?

'Can't afford it mate'
'Oh, okay, no worries'

fromorbit · 18/06/2026 11:57

ZP is now claiming he was too poor to pay council tax. This is a different excuse from previous ones.

City Hall has decided not to launch an investigation into Polanski's council tax arrangements The monitoring officer said that the matter related to "private circumstances" rather the Polanski's role as a London Assembly member They said the decision "does not make any finding on the merits of the underlying concerns”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/06/18/zack-polanski-financial-hardship-council-tax-green-party-uk/

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2026 11:12

The Greens control 18 councils and hold 1,346 town hall seats. At a local level there are already signs that their obsession with Palestine and racial politics means they are neglecting the day job. Green-run Bristol Council has seen pothole complaints rise by 700 per cent in nine months. The party is easy to mock or to brush aside as a collection of oddballs, but if it keeps up its momentum in the polls, it could find itself acting as a power broker after the next general election. Much of the public is infuriated by Labour’s infighting, uselessness and out-of-touch zealotry. But what comes next on the left may be even worse.

they're not wrong.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2026 11:09

Someone called Sabine apparently said “ramming a synagogue isn’t anti-semitism, its revenge” - sounds like the sort of thing that might have got her time in prison during the Southport riots! If Polanski hadn’t taken action, the Greens would be in trouble. As predicted on this thread he won’t be able to manage these groups and tensions, despite all his popularity and media appearances. No one can.

Lalgarh · 18/06/2026 11:09

No matter what he does, it will never be enough for them.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2026 11:02

🍿 🍿 🍿

lcakethereforeIam · 18/06/2026 10:59

Zack Polanski 'draw up a list of IDF people', 'no one wants to live next to a war criminal' is too pro-Zionist!?

fromorbit · 18/06/2026 10:44

ALERT
Major coverage of developments inside the Greens.

Jewish Chronicle report on the nasty debate between Jewish members and "anti-Zionists" in the Greens:

Explosive dossier that reveals escalating row between Jewish group and pro-Palestinian Greens
Email correspondence obtained by JC documents how heated debate over ‘Zionism is racism’ motion led to Jews being held to account for Israel’s actions, sparking calls for an investigation by equalities watchdog
https://www.thejc.com/news/politics/explosive-dossier-jewish-group-palestinian-greens-ww08pk4w

Meanwhile the Spectator reveals Mothin Ali is plotting against Zack.

EXCL: As Keir Starmer struggles to keep his crown, another leadership battle is raging. Away from the media spotlight, there is a struggle for the future of the Green party between its various official ‘Special Interest Groups’ and its leader, Zack Polanski.

On one side, Polanski and his officials are at least trying to appear to be dealing with allegations of anti-Semitism and extremism within the party. On the other, a powerful affiliate group, the Global Majority Greens (GMG), is accusing its leader of creating a ‘hierarchy of racism’, with allegations of anti-Semitism taken more seriously than other complaints.

Polanski, it claims, has failed to be truly anti-racist because he has not backed the ethnic-minority Greens who have been suspended over alleged anti-Jewish rhetoric. Most extraordinarily of all, it believes the Greens – yes, the Greens – are too pro-Zionist.

Crucially, the group is formally backed by Mothin Ali, who serves both as deputy leader of the party and GMG treasurer. Ali has endorsed official reports compiled by the GMG accusing Polanski of a litany of crimes against racial justice. In private WhatsApp groups, documents and Zoom calls leaked to The Spectator, Ali’s disdain for his boss’s conduct is plain.

Included in the leaks is a scathing draft GMG report that will be presented at the Green party AGM later this month. It accuses Polanski and his team of ‘performing anti-racism’ without putting it into practice. The report, which covers the first year of Polanski’s leadership, condemns a ‘serious governance problem inseparable from institutional racism’. Specifically, it criticises the party for suspending members accused of anti-Semitism – even though in most cases the evidence of anti-Semitism is clear-cut.
Article Plot against Zack Polanski:

https://archive.is/c7arr

This is reminiscent of elements of the drama which destroyed Your Party. Parties dominated by this brand of leftish identity politics and sexist nonsense cannot function effectively in modern Britain.

Get the popcorn out folks.

Explosive dossier that reveals escalating row between Jewish group and pro-Palestinian Greens - The Jewish Chronicle

Email correspondence obtained by JC documents how heated debate over ‘Zionism is racism’ motion led to Jews being held to account for Israel’s actions, sparking calls for an investigation by equalities watchdog

https://www.thejc.com/news/politics/explosive-dossier-jewish-group-palestinian-greens-ww08pk4w

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ArabellaScott · 13/06/2026 13:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:30

Seen Polanski’s comments about the Palestine Action terrorists being jailed, including a man who hit a policewoman with a sledgehammer for doing her job? Even worse than the last comment he made on it.

"Gut-wrenching to see four young people jailed for direct action against an arms supplier to Israel. Years in prison for protesting to save lives in Gaza, with 'terrorism' used despite no jury convicting them of it. A truly dangerous attack on the right to protest."

My jaw was fully on the fucking floor with that.

Mask off.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 09:41

Lalgarh · 13/06/2026 09:17

Yes re reading they've downgraded it to "experimental"

That telegraph article:

"...Stroud has become an unexpected battleground for debates over gender ideology in recent years. In 2025, local police treated graffiti that stated “men can’t be women” as a hate crime..."

I used to follow a twitter account dedicated to Argentine space Trotskyite Juan Posadas that based in Stroud. Ah proletarian democracy, where did you go.

https://jacobin.com/2020/04/j-posadas-argentina-trotskyism-ufos

The cancelled authors were going to talk about the impact of the porn industry rather than gender stuff. I guess it fired green synapses BC they'd likely also think Sex Work Is Work

YY I don’t think their book has anything to do with the trans issue.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 13/06/2026 09:26

The cancelled authors were going to talk about the impact of the porn industry rather than gender stuff. I guess it fired green synapses BC they'd likely also think Sex Work Is Work

I've just finished reading their book, Pornocracy. It is an excellent, if deeply concerning read. Shame on the Greens for not wanting debate about an industry that is ruining the lives of so many children, women and men, and causing profound, long term harm at a societal level.

Lalgarh · 13/06/2026 09:17

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:59

Yes, but I don’t think the ONS has fully taken them down, just caveated, which obviously she knows people aren’t likely to bother following the link to.

Yes re reading they've downgraded it to "experimental"

That telegraph article:

"...Stroud has become an unexpected battleground for debates over gender ideology in recent years. In 2025, local police treated graffiti that stated “men can’t be women” as a hate crime..."

I used to follow a twitter account dedicated to Argentine space Trotskyite Juan Posadas that based in Stroud. Ah proletarian democracy, where did you go.

https://jacobin.com/2020/04/j-posadas-argentina-trotskyism-ufos

The cancelled authors were going to talk about the impact of the porn industry rather than gender stuff. I guess it fired green synapses BC they'd likely also think Sex Work Is Work

J. Posadas, the Trotskyist Who Believed in Intergalactic Communism

From his hopes in human-dolphin socializing to his claims that UFOs were sent by alien communists, J. Posadas’s quixotic beliefs are today legendarized in countless memes. But a new biography suggests that the Argentinian Trotskyist was not such an out...

https://jacobin.com/2020/04/j-posadas-argentina-trotskyism-ufos

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 09:01

She looks EXACTLY what I expected before I saw her picture.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:59

Yes, but I don’t think the ONS has fully taken them down, just caveated, which obviously she knows people aren’t likely to bother following the link to.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/06/2026 08:54

Thanks for the new link, I was able to read the article.

I do love it when the 'educate yourself' brigade are forced to attend education training themselves. 😁

"Ms Elliott-Boult responded in a statement, saying: “The complaint was resolved under the informal resolution provisions. I will be completing the same SDC councillor training as all SDC councillors. At no point did I make negative comments about gender-critical views.”

Perhaps they could add something to the training about not lying, the only reason she would have put anything about Holocaust Denial in her tweet was so GC views would be seen negatively.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:51

DrBlackbird · 12/06/2026 18:00

The problem with GenAI is that everyone can now write a letter that strings two sentences together that makes them look semi coherent. Shame really. Doesn’t stop them from going on and on though.

She’s quoting the discredited census figures to claim that London has the highest proportion of trans people. AFAICR it was improbably Newham.

1984Now · 13/06/2026 08:46

hihelenhi · 13/06/2026 08:13

Me neither. Thought it was just me!

So who "forced" her to learn about the Equality Act? Obviously, I don't disagree with that, her behaviour towards Jo Bartosch and Rob Jessel was ridiculous and defamatory.

"charity digital inclusion manager" lol, how very 2026.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:30

Seen Polanski’s comments about the Palestine Action terrorists being jailed, including a man who hit a policewoman with a sledgehammer for doing her job? Even worse than the last comment he made on it.

"Gut-wrenching to see four young people jailed for direct action against an arms supplier to Israel. Years in prison for protesting to save lives in Gaza, with 'terrorism' used despite no jury convicting them of it. A truly dangerous attack on the right to protest."

hihelenhi · 13/06/2026 08:13

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/06/2026 07:39

Sorry, I can't read the article the Archive Site I usually use is not working anymore.

Edited

Me neither. Thought it was just me!

So who "forced" her to learn about the Equality Act? Obviously, I don't disagree with that, her behaviour towards Jo Bartosch and Rob Jessel was ridiculous and defamatory.

ArabellaScott · 13/06/2026 07:57

Chersfrozenface · 11/06/2026 16:09

Interestingly, the consultation on outlawing the practice was publicised specifically in a ‘Greens for Palestine’ WhatsApp group.

Um, circumcision is very widely practised in the Muslim world. It is almost universal amongst Palestinians.

How long will the Greens mange to keep riding both horses? Next conference is going to be carnage.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/06/2026 07:39

Sorry, I can't read the article the Archive Site I usually use is not working anymore.