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Owen Jones

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heartofsunshine · 15/11/2025 19:08

Now that the BBC has been forced to accept their bias and everyone seems to be u-turning, on both gender and the Isreal/Palestine war, how can the Guardian continue to employ and therefore support the views of Owen Jones?

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 24/09/2026 16:50

According to LOJ, the attacks on Jews in the UK are all the fault of Israel and not the fault of Islamic terrorists.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/09/2026 18:45

This comment perfectly sums up the fuckwittery of OJ.

"Not content with suggesting that women who don’t want biological men in their safe spaces are bigoted and prejudiced, we now appear to be entering territory where a woman who refuses to date a man who has sex with other men is somehow bigoted and prejudiced too - and once again, the men are the victims.

What a surprise. Owen Jones: champion of the new progressive patriarchy".

ArabellaSaurus · 24/09/2026 22:03

Lalgarh · 24/09/2026 15:56

Retrieving this from the depths rather than go to the bother of starting a new one. Talcum X. Marvellous.

He's annoyed women don't want to sleep with bisexual men. And he's had a glow up to his profile picture.

x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/2103067779737760121

moody

Interesting or not, he doesn't seem to have also cross posted this to his Bluesky. He's using that to promote his book on the decline of The West (spoiler: it's because capitalism). Maybe that's the one his new employers at Mehdi Hassans news startup Zeteo are targeting.

https://bsky.app/profile/owenjones.bsky.social

He sounds really peeved that some.women don't want to have sex with some men, which is weird. Isn't he gay? Why would he even care?

AMansAManForAllThat · 24/09/2026 22:14

He was mentioned on the radio today, and I had to carefully engage my brain. They referred to him as simply ‘Owen Jones’ and I didn’t immediately grasp they meant LOJ.

And I think being particular about who you have sex with is not unreasonable. There are many perfectly rational considerations to bear in mind.

ArabellaSaurus · 25/09/2026 06:10

Choosing not to sleep with anyone for any reason is reasonable. As someone said on X, women dont owe any men sex.

ArabellaSaurus · 25/09/2026 06:11

Men resenting women for not putting out is gross rape culture.

EmpressaurusKitty · 25/09/2026 07:25

Is LOJ a bigot because he doesn’t want to have sex with women?

GCAcademic · 25/09/2026 07:35

EmpressaurusKitty · 25/09/2026 07:25

Is LOJ a bigot because he doesn’t want to have sex with women?

Of course not. Men should be able to have or avoid sex with whoever they want to (and if thats a woman, it doesn't matter if she wants it). Women should have sex with whoever men say they should have sex with.

It's the progressive way.

EmpressaurusKitty · 25/09/2026 07:36

GCAcademic · 25/09/2026 07:35

Of course not. Men should be able to have or avoid sex with whoever they want to (and if thats a woman, it doesn't matter if she wants it). Women should have sex with whoever men say they should have sex with.

It's the progressive way.

Of course. And this is also what proves that LOJ & his mates know transwomen are really men.

UnaPersson · 25/09/2026 07:43

I dated a bisexual man once, he was lovely.

We were both 19, it was pre the Aids crisis. Plus I guess I was a bit naive, then.

MitheredNotDead · 25/09/2026 07:49

Re that survey: a vast majority of men view bisexual women in a pornified way.

The amount of blokes who hear a woman is bi and go straight to imagining a threesome or getting off on the idea of a woman they’re dating being intimate with another is astounding. Cos pornhub.

Us pesky women, however, don’t tend to have dicks that lead our thoughts in a misogynistic manner.

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/09/2026 08:42

Is Owen Jones still going? I thought he had faded into geriatric irrelevence some time ago. He became a caricature of himself years ago.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 25/09/2026 08:45

Would LOJ date a transman is all you need to ask him.

UnaPersson · 25/09/2026 08:54

YourAmplePlumPoster · 25/09/2026 08:45

Would LOJ date a transman is all you need to ask him.

Do you know, I'd love to ask DS that. He is all TWAW, TMAM etc. and becomes quite incensed if you disagree.

I bet we can guess the answer for both of them. Even they don't believe it.

EmpressaurusKitty · 25/09/2026 09:00

I think several women asked him that question on Twitter a few years ago.

He got very cross.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 25/09/2026 09:15

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/09/2026 08:42

Is Owen Jones still going? I thought he had faded into geriatric irrelevence some time ago. He became a caricature of himself years ago.

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He always seems to be on the Jeremy Vine show on C5. Haven’t watched it in a while though as LOJ was always on it.

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/09/2026 09:25

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 25/09/2026 09:15

He always seems to be on the Jeremy Vine show on C5. Haven’t watched it in a while though as LOJ was always on it.

Since joining the mad Greens he has lost any of his former influence - apart from those who religioulsy 'follow' him on social media.

FancyLilacHare · 25/09/2026 09:47

Davros · 15/11/2025 23:12

It’s still a choice whether to buy a TV licence isn’t it?

Not if you want to watch any live TV at all, not just the BBC

FancyLilacHare · 25/09/2026 09:48

YourAmplePlumPoster · 25/09/2026 08:45

Would LOJ date a transman is all you need to ask him.

I think he said yes to that

I'm not aware he ever has actually done it there

zanahoria · 25/09/2026 10:01

This does seem typical of him, ranting away at a statistic without even attempting to understand the underlying reasons for that figure.

I am guessing huge factor is the 'bi now, gay later' factor. Many men come out as bisexual before announcing they are gay, even LOJ himself admitted to this. Women may be naturally cautious.

There is probably a lot else going on if you have the time to unpick the stats but LOJ just declares it is bigoted women

Lalgarh · 25/09/2026 10:05

YourAmplePlumPoster · 25/09/2026 08:45

Would LOJ date a transman is all you need to ask him.

He did go through a phase of claiming he was looking for a lesbian couple to impregnate before he turned 40. He was asked at the time if that would include trans lesbians but got annoyed again.

I am not aware of any obliging ladies who allowed him to get anywhere near them to achieve his their dream. The hateful TERFs

elgreco · 25/09/2026 10:08

I think we should blame gay men(100% rejection rate) for bisexual women not wanting to out themselves.

PencilsInSpace · 25/09/2026 10:21

EmpressaurusKitty · 25/09/2026 09:00

I think several women asked him that question on Twitter a few years ago.

He got very cross.

#Cunnilingusgate !

Can't believe this was eleven years ago -

https://archive.li/ZB7MN

ArabellaSaurus · 25/09/2026 10:34

zanahoria · 25/09/2026 10:01

This does seem typical of him, ranting away at a statistic without even attempting to understand the underlying reasons for that figure.

I am guessing huge factor is the 'bi now, gay later' factor. Many men come out as bisexual before announcing they are gay, even LOJ himself admitted to this. Women may be naturally cautious.

There is probably a lot else going on if you have the time to unpick the stats but LOJ just declares it is bigoted women

I honestly think he's just done a knee jerk reaction at seeing women saying 'no' to something.

Davros · 25/09/2026 10:38

FancyLilacHare · 25/09/2026 09:47

Not if you want to watch any live TV at all, not just the BBC

I know that but it’s still a choice