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Pointless office jobs

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Probablygreen · Yesterday 17:51

I returned to work today after a couple of weeks off, and I know it takes a few days to get back into the swing of things, but I’ve just thought, all day, that this is a completely pointless existence and I don’t know how I’m going to do it for the next 30 years.

I work in an office based role, and as part of the senior leadership team, earn around £80k per year. The role is not necessary. Without me, nobody would die, the world would carry on as it always has, even the organisation itself would be perfectly fine! I attend meetings where we talk about whether we should or shouldn’t do something. Nobody cares! Just do it or don’t, it makes no difference either way. I feel like I’m not the only one - 99% of office roles fit into this category.

But I’m stuck. I’d love to do something more meaningful, but I need the money. My husband is a carer for our son, and there are no jobs that I can think of that would scratch the itch for the same salary… so do I just suck it up for 30 years? It all seems so ridiculous, how did we as a civilisation end up here?

I’m not depressed or anything, I’m perfectly happy when I’m not at work, but does anyone else feel like this?

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NoteyMcNoteface · Yesterday 17:53

What a lovely first world problem to have. I’m struggling to have any empathy with your situation.

Mumtoabillion · Yesterday 17:59

It's nice that you can express this openly. My dad always said every promotion just fell in his lap so I know it can happen. Sorry I can't give you any help here. Hope you can find a way to it giving you more meaning.

Tortephant · Yesterday 18:01

I totally get it OP. I'm fortunate not to be in that situation, but I have done some office temp work at various times and often thought how many pointless jobs exist and wondered why/how people do them - or do they not recognise that? I have no idea.

What would you enjoy doing? What would give you a purposeful role? I am certain there are jobs for you at a similar salary.

MyManinCaracas · Yesterday 18:02

I think it’s a bad time to even entertain such thoughts when so many all over the world are suffering without. You are one of the lucky ones.

Probablygreen · Yesterday 18:02

@NoteyMcNoteface you might think so, but spending 40 hours a week having your brain numbed is not a nice problem to have. Yes, the money is great, but is it worth 50+ years of life?
This is genuinely not a post about money, I’m very grateful for that aspect of it. I am very aware that there are folks in worse situations, but this post is not about that, it’s about the pointlessness of these jobs and how we got here. I’m not complaining about life in general, I don’t need empathy!
I suppose I want someone to explain why it’s not pointless so that maybe I can enjoy it a bit more 🤣

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zoeslim · Yesterday 18:04

Do not worry Ai will suck up all admin job in a few years

Probablygreen · Yesterday 18:08

Tortephant · Yesterday 18:01

I totally get it OP. I'm fortunate not to be in that situation, but I have done some office temp work at various times and often thought how many pointless jobs exist and wondered why/how people do them - or do they not recognise that? I have no idea.

What would you enjoy doing? What would give you a purposeful role? I am certain there are jobs for you at a similar salary.

Thank you for understanding - I also regularly look around and wonder whether anyone else truly believes in what we are doing or if it’s just one big ‘Emperor’s New Clothes’ situation!
I used to be a teacher, but then that started to become more about pointless things and not teaching, so I career changed.
I would probably like to work with animals, or care for children with additional needs. I suppose this post is more about how ridiculous it is that those much more worthwhile jobs don’t pay enough. They should be the jobs paying a lot of money, and people would be fulfilled at the same time.

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wanttoworkbut · Yesterday 18:09

You have to work to live rather than live to work. I have a similarly pointless job. But I was unemployed for four months so am trying to practise gratitude. It's better than no work, believe me.

Bjorkdidit · Yesterday 18:11

I disagree that 99% of office jobs are pointless or even admin.

Most professionals work in an office and without their expertise, businesses will likely be breaking one law or another whether it be financial, legal or health and safety. And even with AI, you need knowledgeable humans to distinguish between actual requirements and the plausible sounding nonsense that AI often comes up with.

Tortephant · Yesterday 18:13

Probablygreen · Yesterday 18:08

Thank you for understanding - I also regularly look around and wonder whether anyone else truly believes in what we are doing or if it’s just one big ‘Emperor’s New Clothes’ situation!
I used to be a teacher, but then that started to become more about pointless things and not teaching, so I career changed.
I would probably like to work with animals, or care for children with additional needs. I suppose this post is more about how ridiculous it is that those much more worthwhile jobs don’t pay enough. They should be the jobs paying a lot of money, and people would be fulfilled at the same time.

Those on the ground jobs won't pay that. But more senior roles in such organisations will, you may just have to take a small pay cut whilst learning the industry. Find a good mentor and be a sponge for a year. eg: Fundraising Director, this is a science and an art, or Operations Director if logistics is your thing....
Self employed consultant if you can fund your early days.

RaininSummer · Yesterday 18:14

You get 80k for this? Bloody hell. My office job is full on with added risks from the public all for 32j. Maybe you should switch to something more interesting and let your employer find someone more engaged with their work.

Tortephant · Yesterday 18:15

@wanttoworkbut so people thrive 'live to work' and work is there passion and life. For others it is possible to combine both when you love what you do. They aren't mutually exclusive, and I personally don't think they should be for many people.

TheDandyLion · Yesterday 18:17

I've got one of those bullshit jobs and I'm happy to play the charade if they keep paying a lot of money for not a lot of work.

EvelynBeatrice · Yesterday 18:18

Politics? Might be a way to make a difference locally or nationally. Lobbying ?

ginasevern · Yesterday 18:18

I doubt that your job will exist for another 30 years if it really is a "pointless" office job. AI will wipe most of those out. I should make the most of earning 80k whilst you can.

Probablygreen · Yesterday 18:18

RaininSummer · Yesterday 18:14

You get 80k for this? Bloody hell. My office job is full on with added risks from the public all for 32j. Maybe you should switch to something more interesting and let your employer find someone more engaged with their work.

I didn’t say there wasn’t a lot to do, or that I’m not good at it.

But the role itself has no real meaning. They’d say I save money for the organisation. They’d save a lot more if they didn’t employ me and all of the other people employed in the same role. And what does it really matter anyway in the grand scheme of the universe? A headstone shouldn’t ever read, “she saved a lot of money”, but it feels like that’s what we’re becoming as a society.

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TwilightAb · Yesterday 18:21

And yet I do a job that does literally change lives and I get no where near your salary.

FancyKitten · Yesterday 18:21

This is why they’ve invented AI, isn’t it?

The Chinese spy affair guy is staying put.

Smokeywater · Yesterday 18:25

Is it Civil Service because if it's a private company why don't you start pressurising things in the pointless meetings and get things moving - save it lots of money - get promoted so you can save and retire earlier ??

... or a charity???

Fallulah · Yesterday 18:26

I felt the same when I went back to work after my dad died, so I think your period of absence is probably part of it. It wore off; I know I make a difference but I don’t think anyone looks at their job and thinks ‘yes I can do exactly this for the next 30 years’!

As a teacher I’d like to know where the non-impacting office jobs that will pay me £80k are!

Thackthwaite · Yesterday 18:28

What does your organisation do? It must make something, provide a service, facilitate other businesses…..all of those things are worthwhile in some way.

BillieWiper · Yesterday 18:30

Haha. I used to feel that way on minimum wage staring into the middle distance for 8 hours a day.

A reception desk that's not open to the public and the only instruction I ever got was to tell a mystery voice through a radio to 'open the loading bay'. When someone asked where the loading bay was I had no idea because I'd never been shown around the building I was the receptionist for.

FancyKitten · Yesterday 18:30

Fallulah · Yesterday 18:26

I felt the same when I went back to work after my dad died, so I think your period of absence is probably part of it. It wore off; I know I make a difference but I don’t think anyone looks at their job and thinks ‘yes I can do exactly this for the next 30 years’!

As a teacher I’d like to know where the non-impacting office jobs that will pay me £80k are!

I have a few friends in similar jobs. Easy money. Most of them are WFH as well. I think we have a big AI work culture shift coming…

TheLoneHiker · Yesterday 18:31

Probablygreen · Yesterday 18:02

@NoteyMcNoteface you might think so, but spending 40 hours a week having your brain numbed is not a nice problem to have. Yes, the money is great, but is it worth 50+ years of life?
This is genuinely not a post about money, I’m very grateful for that aspect of it. I am very aware that there are folks in worse situations, but this post is not about that, it’s about the pointlessness of these jobs and how we got here. I’m not complaining about life in general, I don’t need empathy!
I suppose I want someone to explain why it’s not pointless so that maybe I can enjoy it a bit more 🤣

I'm not in exactly the same situation, but definitely similar. I have some useful stuff to do but my actual day job by spec doesn't fill my time. And I wish it did!

The days drag and it's quite mind numbing like you say! Im paid similar to you and it does trap you (in a nice way compared to many people) from moving roles as you know you won't get paid the same else where.

If it makes you feel better, I've managed to stick it out for nearly 25 years now 😄

ChocolateCinderToffee · Yesterday 18:37

I absolutely understand. When my employer started encouraging people to WFH, it very quickly became clear that some middle managers didn't really have anything to do. While the people they managed got on with their work at home, the managers would be in the office, floating around.

My only solution would be find something worthwhile that you can do part time, and reduce your hours to allow this.