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Pointless office jobs

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Probablygreen · 10/11/2026 17:51

I returned to work today after a couple of weeks off, and I know it takes a few days to get back into the swing of things, but I’ve just thought, all day, that this is a completely pointless existence and I don’t know how I’m going to do it for the next 30 years.

I work in an office based role, and as part of the senior leadership team, earn around £80k per year. The role is not necessary. Without me, nobody would die, the world would carry on as it always has, even the organisation itself would be perfectly fine! I attend meetings where we talk about whether we should or shouldn’t do something. Nobody cares! Just do it or don’t, it makes no difference either way. I feel like I’m not the only one - 99% of office roles fit into this category.

But I’m stuck. I’d love to do something more meaningful, but I need the money. My husband is a carer for our son, and there are no jobs that I can think of that would scratch the itch for the same salary… so do I just suck it up for 30 years? It all seems so ridiculous, how did we as a civilisation end up here?

I’m not depressed or anything, I’m perfectly happy when I’m not at work, but does anyone else feel like this?

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Gwenhwyfar · 10/11/2026 20:52

Newsenmum · 10/11/2026 20:12

Could you look for a similar role in a company thats values are more interesting/meaningful?

Those organisations are also full of bullshit jobs e.g. you can work for a charity or whatever but your particular job is pointless.

Spiderx · 10/11/2026 20:52

Probablygreen · 10/11/2026 17:51

I returned to work today after a couple of weeks off, and I know it takes a few days to get back into the swing of things, but I’ve just thought, all day, that this is a completely pointless existence and I don’t know how I’m going to do it for the next 30 years.

I work in an office based role, and as part of the senior leadership team, earn around £80k per year. The role is not necessary. Without me, nobody would die, the world would carry on as it always has, even the organisation itself would be perfectly fine! I attend meetings where we talk about whether we should or shouldn’t do something. Nobody cares! Just do it or don’t, it makes no difference either way. I feel like I’m not the only one - 99% of office roles fit into this category.

But I’m stuck. I’d love to do something more meaningful, but I need the money. My husband is a carer for our son, and there are no jobs that I can think of that would scratch the itch for the same salary… so do I just suck it up for 30 years? It all seems so ridiculous, how did we as a civilisation end up here?

I’m not depressed or anything, I’m perfectly happy when I’m not at work, but does anyone else feel like this?

Friggin' hell ! 80 grand for working in an office ?! Work backwards from that statement and you will find all the answers to the worlds problems !! 😊 I get what you say though...working anywhere just passing paperwork on to the next person to shuffle it and to pass it on to the next employee...it doesn't actually move the human race forward does it ?

ItalianoSl · 10/11/2026 20:52

Greenlawnbrownlawn · 10/11/2026 20:45

Spot on. I'm absolutely convinced that a large number, maybe even the majority, of office based jobs are pointless. Bloated organisations with endless layers of middle management adding nothing but costing a fortune.

I often read of MNers with huge salaries, working from home, and I'm always left wondering "Yes, but what do you actually do?"*

*I'm a fine one to criticise. I doubt if my 30 odd years in the Civil Service would have had less impact if I'd just stayed in bed.

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What? The majority of jobs where people sit at a desk are pointless?
That's a ludicrous statement.

PurpleAxe · 10/11/2026 20:54

LOL, I realised this about 20 years ago. At which point I have apent my time makung sure I get maximum money for minimum work.

I could not give a fuck about whatevwr nonsense they are cooking up at work each day. But I can talk the talk and I expend no emotional energy at all.

Has worked for me verybwell. I make a shitload of money, have zero stress and use said money to enjoy myself.

"Lean in" OP. 😆

Greenlawnbrownlawn · 10/11/2026 20:55

ItalianoSl · 10/11/2026 20:52

What? The majority of jobs where people sit at a desk are pointless?
That's a ludicrous statement.

FFS, IN MY OPINION, MAYBE the majority. So I can't have an opinion now?

I'm getting really pissed off with MN tonight.

mtobrokeme · 10/11/2026 20:56

ItalianoSl · 10/11/2026 19:58

Christ.
You earn 70K for doing 2hrs work a week and think you're fortunate and lucky.
Morally it stinks.

Shall I hand my notice in then? Will that improve pay and conditions for others? No, of course it won’t!

Duckswaddle · 10/11/2026 20:58

Stop bloody moaning.

Spiderx · 10/11/2026 21:00

Probablygreen · 10/11/2026 18:08

Thank you for understanding - I also regularly look around and wonder whether anyone else truly believes in what we are doing or if it’s just one big ‘Emperor’s New Clothes’ situation!
I used to be a teacher, but then that started to become more about pointless things and not teaching, so I career changed.
I would probably like to work with animals, or care for children with additional needs. I suppose this post is more about how ridiculous it is that those much more worthwhile jobs don’t pay enough. They should be the jobs paying a lot of money, and people would be fulfilled at the same time.

Kurt Vonnegut put it in a nutshell " we are here on this earth to fart around and don't let anyone tell you different" Once you realise this , everything is temporary, life, pain, riches, poverty ...it'll give the impetous just to crack on and do what YOU want ...?!

Metalmotha · 10/11/2026 21:00

Ally886 · 10/11/2026 20:49

You'd be surprised! I work in tech and all the big players have cut back their AI investments by 50% for next year!

AI makes too many mistakes and we're finding were holding onto teams set for redundancy

This doesn’t surprise me at all, AI is making many people’s lives hell at work and has been sold to businesses with lots of false promises

Daisy12Maisie · 10/11/2026 21:00

My friend works doing planning for trains. She earns 70 grand. I nearly fell off my chair when she told me. She said she spends most of the day on her phone and trying to think of things to do. She doesn’t have to work evenings or weekends or take work home with her.
So office jobs like that do exist.
My job is intense and stressful but sometimes when driving in I think at least I’m not working down a coal mine or a bus driver. (This is not me looking down my nose at these jobs it’s me knowing I would have a panic attack if I had to do either of those jobs.) There is no way I am capable of driving a bus! I struggle with a mini.
So I think a lot of people find their jobs pointless/ rubbish but if you are earning 80 grand you are doing better than most.

Lifeomars · 10/11/2026 21:08

The most i have ever earned has been around £37k and I had to work like a dog for it, balance huge budgets, write a local strategy that would be implemented across 4 statutory organisations that worked in partenership to provide different aspects of essential services and make sure that the local strategy incoporated national health targets. I certainly wasn't bored but i was exhausted and stressed I can't even begin to imagine the life i could have on £80k it is a fantasy world that i will never know .

Macinae · 10/11/2026 21:15

Lifeomars · 10/11/2026 21:08

The most i have ever earned has been around £37k and I had to work like a dog for it, balance huge budgets, write a local strategy that would be implemented across 4 statutory organisations that worked in partenership to provide different aspects of essential services and make sure that the local strategy incoporated national health targets. I certainly wasn't bored but i was exhausted and stressed I can't even begin to imagine the life i could have on £80k it is a fantasy world that i will never know .

If you're writing strategies for 37K you're being mugged off.

ProtestantTraybakeQueen · 10/11/2026 21:15

You’re not going to be in the same role for 30 years!! Promotions, retraining, doing fewer days as DC grows up and DP becomes freer.

When I was in a dead end call center job I made them let me take a Friday off if I worked every Saturday (we were meant to do 1 in 4), so I could spend my Friday retraining. It worked!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 10/11/2026 21:18

BillieWiper · 10/11/2026 18:30

Haha. I used to feel that way on minimum wage staring into the middle distance for 8 hours a day.

A reception desk that's not open to the public and the only instruction I ever got was to tell a mystery voice through a radio to 'open the loading bay'. When someone asked where the loading bay was I had no idea because I'd never been shown around the building I was the receptionist for.

Oh wow, that would be like some surreal dystopian theatre

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 10/11/2026 21:22

Probablygreen · 10/11/2026 18:02

@NoteyMcNoteface you might think so, but spending 40 hours a week having your brain numbed is not a nice problem to have. Yes, the money is great, but is it worth 50+ years of life?
This is genuinely not a post about money, I’m very grateful for that aspect of it. I am very aware that there are folks in worse situations, but this post is not about that, it’s about the pointlessness of these jobs and how we got here. I’m not complaining about life in general, I don’t need empathy!
I suppose I want someone to explain why it’s not pointless so that maybe I can enjoy it a bit more 🤣

@Probablygreen - I know what you mean. I used to have to go to industry events in the area I worked - and oh my, they sent me into a downwards spiral of existential angst. (Though to be fair, I do think my job had some meaning )

Daisy62 · 10/11/2026 21:23

I felt like this, but didn't want to give up my well paid and super-flexible job. I trained to do a charity role (which wasn't badly paid but hours were limited) and I did various versions of that role for one day a week for the last 15 years of my working life. It was helping people directly and I felt useful and fulfilled - it made all the difference to me. Maybe you could start doing some stuff to work towards making changes - voluntary work, careers advisory appointment, looking at courses etc. Doesn't have to be all or nothing straight away.

ElizaToolittle · 10/11/2026 21:25

Do a community volunteer role as well. I also have a boring office job, unlike you though I earn 29.k . On Wednesdays I run a food share at a local church. It's the highlight of my week.
Weekends I run a sports club.
The volunteering makes up for the job that has no meaning. I also am a local Councillor znc plan to leave my job and do politics full-time,
Give yourself a 5 year plan.
Life can be fulfilling, you sound unfulfilled and your dh needs to step up.

Jk987 · 10/11/2026 21:26

It’s not 30 more years of this though. The company will change, they’ll be restructures takeovers and redundancies. No one is immune from redundancy. Don’t get complacent!

ALittleDropOfRain · 10/11/2026 21:26

I found meaning in my corporate role by looking out for the people around me. I could leave most days knowing I‘d brightened someone’s day in a small or a more significant way. The work itself was mostly frustrating.

FlapperFlamingo · 10/11/2026 21:35

If your role is really unnecessary then I’d be upskilling so when they realise you are still in a position to get a decent job - especially is you are the bread winner! Can you do further study? Could you cross train and move to another area?

loveawineloveacrisp · 10/11/2026 21:37

zoeslim · 10/11/2026 18:04

Do not worry Ai will suck up all admin job in a few years

It's hardly an admin role at an 80k salary.

I sympathise OP. But then I'm due to retire at the age of 57 in 3 weeks. 38 years in the same industry does make it difficult to carry on giving a shit.

EgregiouslyOverdressed · 10/11/2026 21:38

I understand: humans need purpose. Many people get this from their jobs but many others don’t. Many people work to pay the bills and find their purpose in volunteer work. Could you consider this? Your previous experience as a teacher would be a real asset as a school governor.

Sunnydaydreams · 10/11/2026 21:40

My job is pointless but I’m on peanuts. I do emphathise - it is soul-destroying not to feel like you have a purpose. I have so little to do it’s mind-numbing. I’ve haven’t been in this job for long. I left a role that was so hectic it gave me palpitations but I was needed. I don’t think I can stick this job because my sense of worth is on the floor. It’s all very well people telling you to suck it up for the money and find a purpose outside of work, but you spend a large part of your life at your desk. I’m older and I feel like I’m watching my life tick away while I pretend to be productive. There’s no point asking for more work as my colleagues clearly also have little to do but are more adept at pretending they are doing something important.

JHound · 10/11/2026 21:41

Probablygreen · 10/11/2026 18:02

@NoteyMcNoteface you might think so, but spending 40 hours a week having your brain numbed is not a nice problem to have. Yes, the money is great, but is it worth 50+ years of life?
This is genuinely not a post about money, I’m very grateful for that aspect of it. I am very aware that there are folks in worse situations, but this post is not about that, it’s about the pointlessness of these jobs and how we got here. I’m not complaining about life in general, I don’t need empathy!
I suppose I want someone to explain why it’s not pointless so that maybe I can enjoy it a bit more 🤣

Retrain into something you find more interesting but that also pays well then.

Oldbaglady46 · 10/11/2026 21:45

I know what you mean. I have a similar pointless job but it pays well and is low stress and every time I look at more interesting jobs I come to the conclusion that it’s more work for less money so I stay where I am! I’ve made peace with it, I have a good work life balance and a healthy bank balance so could be in a far worse position, In about 4 years I will be able to go part time and have more time doing the things I want to do. Right now I focus on enjoying weekends and holidays that I am lucky enough to be able to afford.