Jonathan Ross

People have suggested he’s guilty by association. They were also posts here yesterday about Noel Fielding. As I said, I can’t stand Ross although I do like Fielding and if either of them are found to be guilty of a crime, put them away - I wouldn’t give a shit about them. I don’t like people casting aspersions at people because they don’t like them, or they’re weird’. There are people who make my skin crawl; it doesn’t make them perverts.

The idea that a 16yo being with a 26yo was normal in those days is absolutely bonkers. I am exactly the same age as his wife. I went on one "date", as a 16yo with a man of 24. My Dad went absolutely wild and the man's friends told them what they thought of him too.

The Mandy Smith thing got a lot of publicity precisely because it was so weird...and becuase her Mother courted publicity. She later married Wyman's son. The whole things was very messed, up and that's what people thought at the time. It sold newspapers is the reason it got publicity, precisely because no-one thought it was normal.

I saw that, and at the time thought it was a jibe at the unattractive Brydon and Mitchell.

I actually thought that was a really entertaining show at the time. I clearly remember watching it with DH and enjoyed the nonsense of Brand and Fielding, which is shocking to me now.

That was more extreme. She was 14 when they started dating and he was a lot older than 24. I don't know how he got away with that it definitely sent the wrong message.

I don't think guilty by association but questioning what they must have known about the people they associate with.

No, you absolutely don't need solid evidence. If you have any concerns, especially about the treatment of children, it is your duty to report. You don't need evidence to report it, that's what the subsequent investigation is for.

A previous work colleague used to regularly drink in the same pub with Fred West. He must have known what he was really like.

He's just so gross. He says here "I was just backstage at THE URINAL chatting to Miranda Hart". That's so nasty, cruel and denigrating of women - implying that a noted and successful comedic actress and writer is a man in drag just because she is tall. She just laughs along no doubt to show she can take a joke. One minute in here:

The whole thing is pretty unpleasant so called comedy mainly insulting people just after he makes another supposed joke denigrating women (Saying they in their finery they all look like "the one you'd definitely sleep with on the apprentice") at about 2:50 Patricia Hodge is in the centre of the table looking very unamused.

Why should we give him the benefit of the doubt?

That wise old mumsnet saying of ‘when someone tells you who they are, believe them’ would serve us well here.

Sure, I’m not saying he should be locked up (at least not without a thorough investigation and a fair trial) but do we have to suffer these rich and powerful men being given extremely well paid jobs? Can we just…stop enabling them by showering them with money and fame? When will they be held accountable?

You can't seriously be that rude

Did he joke very publicly about West burying young people under the patio, you know like Ross did about 15yos going home with Walliams?

Did he joke very publicly about West burying young people under the patio, you know like Ross did about 15yos going home with Walliams?

How was that rude? It wasn’t

i pointed out something you clearly couldn’t handle

the fact is there is a difference between your parents at 20 and 30 and JR and his wife at 16 and 26.

the fact that you can’t see that is on you

And yes using it was different times is a sick excuse

it wasn’t different times at all, it wasn’t acceptable for a 16 year old and 26 year old then just like it isn’t now

You disagree with me, that's fine. You started your post by calling me thick. That's rude.

ETA I see it's now been deleted! Not at my request, I'm happy for people to see how you engage with others.

I don't know - maybe he did, but who would have taken it seriously at the time? I recall lots of people making jokes about "burying X under the patio" when that same storyline was happening in Brookside decades ago.

My point is there is a often a jump to say "they must have known" about X or Y or Z and that "everyone is responsible" when there will have been people who worked with X or Y or Z who genuinely saw or heard nothing untoward. Guilt by association isn't always fair. Many rapist's or murderer's wives are totally shocked to discover the truth, after all.

None of which means Ross and others aren't a sleaze.

I have never understood why given he made those horrible calls to Andrew Sachs with Brand that he wasn't sacked by the BBC. How he is still working?

Jonathan Ross is revolting. He has that sort of sleasy air about him - I can't quite put my finger on why but there is something a bit vile there. Maybe it's because he gives an impression of thinking he's ultra actractive to women when he obviously isn't. Or on his chat show sometimes laughs along an inappropriate jokes.

Like this when Aisling Bea takes on an inappropriate question and runs with it to make them all uncomfortable. Romesh Ranganthan also not impressed with Ross. It's grotesque.

It was an incredibly funny show at the time and I also don’t think Ross came across poorly in that particular skit. He was indeed having a jibe at the other four men there - two more sexually appealing than the other two who are clearly “sexless” dowdy sorts. Obviously Lily looked incredibly uncomfortable throughout which is important.

I’m not defending Ross on the whole, he has selected interesting company over the years shall we say. I hope nothing comes out about Noel Fielding.

Whether marrying a 16 year old is moral or not it is completely legal in the UK for 16 year olds to have sex and marry. Yes it can be sleazy but there is nothing illegal about it unless the older person is in a position of responsibility eg teacher.

In England you need parental consent to marry at 16 which is why people went over the border to elope at Gretna Green where you don’t.

He's already stated he didn't write the script. Most award presenters don't, they just read it.

Whether he could have refused to say it is another matter.