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Undahpressurah · 2026-11-10T13:49:33+00:00

Is he next? thought this could be a good place to discuss his ‘jokes’ about a 15 year old going home with Walliams. He clearly knew far more about Brand and Walliams than he let on. Repulsive.

Fancynancie · Today 14:39

JustAnotherWhinger · Today 13:53

Given that he is 10 years older than his wife and they met when she was 16, married when she was 18 I can’t say I’d be overly surprised.

I’d never heard of the fact they met when she was 16 and him 26 until yesterday, which surprised me as that kind if age set up normally comes up, but I assume it’s flown under the radar a bit because they’re still married.

It was ‘normalised’ then. Remember Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith. Their wedding was on the cover of Hello Magazine and their age difference was much bigger.

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Today 14:39

Redbags · Today 14:26

Jonathon Ross, one of the most sought after presenters on the planet at the time, could absolutely have refused to say it. Do you think the autocue, on stage, at the event was the first time he saw the script?

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I'm merely stating a fact.

And actually, I have known presenters not read a full autocue of every link before an awards ceremony. They've turned up, read the first few for sound checks and then done the job. I've no idea if that's the case with Ross at this particular awards.

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Today 14:41

Fancynancie · Today 14:39

It was ‘normalised’ then. Remember Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith. Their wedding was on the cover of Hello Magazine and their age difference was much bigger.

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In the Victorian era it was very very commonplace that there were significant age gaps between men and women. Not saying it's right, just a fact.

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Undahpressurah · Today 14:42

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Today 14:41

In the Victorian era it was very very commonplace that there were significant age gaps between men and women. Not saying it's right, just a fact.

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Weirdest defence of Ross I’ve seen today.

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Redbags · Today 14:42

Fancynancie · Today 14:39

It was ‘normalised’ then. Remember Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith. Their wedding was on the cover of Hello Magazine and their age difference was much bigger.

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Nobody thought Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith was normal, but iirc most of the vitriol was aimed at her

ginasevern · Today 14:43

Undahpressurah · Today 14:25

Why should we give him the benefit of the doubt?

That wise old mumsnet saying of ‘when someone tells you who they are, believe them’ would serve us well here.

Sure, I’m not saying he should be locked up (at least not without a thorough investigation and a fair trial) but do we have to suffer these rich and powerful men being given extremely well paid jobs? Can we just…stop enabling them by showering them with money and fame? When will they be held accountable?

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Well said. I'm nearly 70 and I've thought this for years. We've been told to laugh along with these men, make allowances etc. In a way we've all been subliminally groomed.

Fancynancie · Today 14:43

Redbags · Today 14:42

Nobody thought Bill Wyman and Mandy Smith was normal, but iirc most of the vitriol was aimed at her

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Well it wasn’t an oddity - it was celebrated on the cover of a middle of the road magazine

Redbags · Today 14:44

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Today 14:41

In the Victorian era it was very very commonplace that there were significant age gaps between men and women. Not saying it's right, just a fact.

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Yes because women needed a man or they'd be destitute. Nothing about that is good.

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Today 14:45

Undahpressurah · Today 14:42

Weirdest defence of Ross I’ve seen today.

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FFS I'm not defending Ross there. I'm commenting on someone saying the Mandy Smith/Bill Wyman thing was commonplace in the 80s and that it was far more commonplace 100 years previously.

Reading skills really are in short supply on some threads today.

BrandiedAromatics · Today 14:46

Redbags · Today 14:44

Yes because women needed a man or they'd be destitute. Nothing about that is good.

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In the Guardian article about the allegations, you can see Walliams flattering, feigning interest - creating a dependency. He wasn't interested in the teenagers.

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Undahpressurah · Today 14:53

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Today 14:45

FFS I'm not defending Ross there. I'm commenting on someone saying the Mandy Smith/Bill Wyman thing was commonplace in the 80s and that it was far more commonplace 100 years previously.

Reading skills really are in short supply on some threads today.

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But what exactly does the Victorian era have to do with Jonathan Ross?

There’s nothing wrong with my reading skills but I’m questioning yours. You are welcome to start a thread about age gap relationships in the Victorian era if that’s what you wish to discuss - this one is to discuss the tv presenter Jonathan Ross, who is linked to the disgraced comedian David Walliams, and the convicted rapist Russell Brand, and who may have known more than he let on about his friend’s tastes for girls under the age of consent (also known as children).

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maudelovesharold · Today 14:54

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Today 14:45

FFS I'm not defending Ross there. I'm commenting on someone saying the Mandy Smith/Bill Wyman thing was commonplace in the 80s and that it was far more commonplace 100 years previously.

Reading skills really are in short supply on some threads today.

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Nuanced observations and comments often don’t go well on AIBU, I find!

FairyInTheMossGarden · Today 14:55

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Today 14:12

It's a very distasteful joke that isn't remotely funny. But a bad joke does not in itself prove what he did or didn't know.

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In 2007 Ross, Brand and Noel Fielding were on the Big Fat Quiz of the year.

Ross is pretty revealing in what he says about Lily Allen, Brand and Fielding.

“You’ve put the only sexually attractive young lady – well, the only young lady full stop, she happens to be very attractive as well – near two of the best known cocksmen of the business.”
Ross then moved Allen to the other side closer to other guests Rob Brydon and David Mitchell in the “sexless zone”, because that way Allen “might go home with her dress still on”, Ross said.

Brand and Fielding then went on to make rape jokes.

Lily was 22 at the time. Ross was 47.

Ross is a shit bag of the first order

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/disturbing-clips-of-russell-brand-interviewing-female-celebrities-resurface-after-rape-conviction/news-story/d6b1feb492f65c9d80c992e85f4f112d

IdentifyingAsAWoollyMammoth · Today 14:56

maudelovesharold · Today 14:54

Nuanced observations and comments often don’t go well on AIBU, I find!

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Nor intelligence, at times.

Additup · Today 14:57

Undahpressurah · Today 14:10

What about throwing out allegations about what he knew and what he tolerated in his peer group based on his own words though?

Like making a joke at an awards show about 15 year olds going home with David Walliams? 🤮

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It isn't illegal to make a distasteful joke!!

Sewingbeedamned · Today 14:59

Never could abide Johnathan Ross, and agree he was sleazy from the start. As someone about the same age, I remember being pretty disgusted by the idea he met her when she was 16 at the time they got married. But when I was in my 20s, the world was very much run by men in their 50s and 60s and many of them still thought it was ok to put their hand up your skirt, or try to force themselves on you and excuse it as being drunk.

Redbags · Today 15:00

FairyInTheMossGarden · Today 14:55

In 2007 Ross, Brand and Noel Fielding were on the Big Fat Quiz of the year.

Ross is pretty revealing in what he says about Lily Allen, Brand and Fielding.

“You’ve put the only sexually attractive young lady – well, the only young lady full stop, she happens to be very attractive as well – near two of the best known cocksmen of the business.”
Ross then moved Allen to the other side closer to other guests Rob Brydon and David Mitchell in the “sexless zone”, because that way Allen “might go home with her dress still on”, Ross said.

Brand and Fielding then went on to make rape jokes.

Lily was 22 at the time. Ross was 47.

Ross is a shit bag of the first order

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/disturbing-clips-of-russell-brand-interviewing-female-celebrities-resurface-after-rape-conviction/news-story/d6b1feb492f65c9d80c992e85f4f112d

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I saw that, and at the time thought it was a jibe at the unattractive Brydon and Mitchell.

I actually thought that was a really entertaining show at the time. I clearly remember watching it with DH and enjoyed the nonsense of Brand and Fielding, which is shocking to me now.

Additup · Today 15:01

FairyInTheMossGarden · Today 14:55

In 2007 Ross, Brand and Noel Fielding were on the Big Fat Quiz of the year.

Ross is pretty revealing in what he says about Lily Allen, Brand and Fielding.

“You’ve put the only sexually attractive young lady – well, the only young lady full stop, she happens to be very attractive as well – near two of the best known cocksmen of the business.”
Ross then moved Allen to the other side closer to other guests Rob Brydon and David Mitchell in the “sexless zone”, because that way Allen “might go home with her dress still on”, Ross said.

Brand and Fielding then went on to make rape jokes.

Lily was 22 at the time. Ross was 47.

Ross is a shit bag of the first order

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/disturbing-clips-of-russell-brand-interviewing-female-celebrities-resurface-after-rape-conviction/news-story/d6b1feb492f65c9d80c992e85f4f112d

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Im not sure how JR can be criticised in that scenario. Presumably he was doing Lily Allen a favour by moving her?

Havingaswimmoose · Today 15:01

FairyInTheMossGarden · Today 14:55

In 2007 Ross, Brand and Noel Fielding were on the Big Fat Quiz of the year.

Ross is pretty revealing in what he says about Lily Allen, Brand and Fielding.

“You’ve put the only sexually attractive young lady – well, the only young lady full stop, she happens to be very attractive as well – near two of the best known cocksmen of the business.”
Ross then moved Allen to the other side closer to other guests Rob Brydon and David Mitchell in the “sexless zone”, because that way Allen “might go home with her dress still on”, Ross said.

Brand and Fielding then went on to make rape jokes.

Lily was 22 at the time. Ross was 47.

Ross is a shit bag of the first order

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/disturbing-clips-of-russell-brand-interviewing-female-celebrities-resurface-after-rape-conviction/news-story/d6b1feb492f65c9d80c992e85f4f112d

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Thank you for posting this.

All the way through the coverage of the Russell Brand trial I could hear, in my head, Jonathan Ross saying this on that programme.

I'm glad it's not just me who remembers this vile reveal.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Today 15:01

FairyInTheMossGarden · Today 14:55

In 2007 Ross, Brand and Noel Fielding were on the Big Fat Quiz of the year.

Ross is pretty revealing in what he says about Lily Allen, Brand and Fielding.

“You’ve put the only sexually attractive young lady – well, the only young lady full stop, she happens to be very attractive as well – near two of the best known cocksmen of the business.”
Ross then moved Allen to the other side closer to other guests Rob Brydon and David Mitchell in the “sexless zone”, because that way Allen “might go home with her dress still on”, Ross said.

Brand and Fielding then went on to make rape jokes.

Lily was 22 at the time. Ross was 47.

Ross is a shit bag of the first order

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/disturbing-clips-of-russell-brand-interviewing-female-celebrities-resurface-after-rape-conviction/news-story/d6b1feb492f65c9d80c992e85f4f112d

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I don't dispute that he is a shitbag. But like I said earlier, there is a difference between being a wanker and being a criminal.

Maybe he knew about the predatory behaviour of his mates. Or maybe he didn't. It's entirely possible that they announced it and that he stupidly thought it was a joke that he then played along with. That would suggest that he is a misogynist with bad judgment and a very poor sense of humour. It does not necessarily prove that he knew anything.

Lifeomars · Today 15:03

He's another one who has always made my skin crawl but at this moment in time that is proof of nothing. He has kept dubious company for many years and I am amazed that he sitll has a public profile. Guess we will have to wait and see

Redbags · Today 15:04

Lifeomars · Today 15:03

He's another one who has always made my skin crawl but at this moment in time that is proof of nothing. He has kept dubious company for many years and I am amazed that he sitll has a public profile. Guess we will have to wait and see

Why are there so many "-personalities" that make our skin crawl? What it it that makes that sell?

MeowDoku · Today 15:05

Firesidechatter · Today 13:57

I’m not sure you can make him guilty by association, and back when him and Jane got together, this age gap was common and not frowned on.

This, my dad is ten years older than my mum and they met when she was twenty, would be quite frightened upon on MN these days but was very common back then. FWIW my mum left school at 14 and had been working for 6 years by then, so very different times

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Undahpressurah · Today 15:07

Additup · Today 15:01

Im not sure how JR can be criticised in that scenario. Presumably he was doing Lily Allen a favour by moving her?

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How is making a joke about his friends being rapists defending her? He’s an incredibly powerful man. He could have ACTUALLY defended women by making sure his pervy mates weren’t given work (particularly highly paid, influential, work) and he could - if he suspected them of being rapists - reported his suspicions to the police. Or his boss.

It’s clownery to think this is defending anyone. The onus isn’t on women to keep themselves safe by ‘avoiding’ rapists. Lily Allen should be able to go to work without coming across a sexual predator - rather than having a patronising man ‘move her out of the way’. Ffs.

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2mummies1baby · Today 15:08

I've been thinking about Jonathan Ross a lot recently, too, in relation to Russell Brand.

I went to his Halloween party about 15 years ago (I was friends with his daughter at the time) and stayed the night. It's the only time I've met him, and when all the famous guests (including David Walliams) had left he was utterly miserable, unfriendly and snapping at his wife. They obviously then had a row, as at one point in the middle of the night he burst into the spare room where my then-girlfriend and I were sleeping. To be fair, he was utterly mortified and mumbled, "Sorry, girls, I didn't realise anyone was in here," and left immediately. But there was absolutely nothing likeable about him once his famous mates had gone and he was only around his family and nobodies in their late teens and early twenties.

He also had a framed letter from Russell Brand on his wall, all about how great it was that his career had recovered from Sachs-gate and how wonderful he (JR) is. Really cringey.