David Walliams

This thread is sure to mention him by name. This thread is not going down without the trousers.

Well, thwy presumably earn very big money so they arent going to bite the hand that feeds them, are they. Thar's the trouble with ppl in showbiz. They earn big bucks and have nice lifestyles and they all cover their own backs so they arent going to whistleblow. They get very mealy mouthed when it comes to calling out other entertainers, have you noticed ? They are all over each other to get work. .

Why ? as a matter of interest. I've always thought he's a bit of a show off and big mouth and probably wanted to appear to be one of the lads, but I've never thought of him as a predator. He seems to have a wife and family that he is devoted to.

I don't think the BGT hot mic leak happened without Cowell's knowledge. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall before Harper Collins.🤔

Absolutely. I think SC knew DW had to go and that was an easy way for him to achieve that.

That is OBVIOUSLY not what I mean here. And the laws in question in the US where the age of consent is 18 or higher take into account close-in-age age differences which are exempt (Romeo and Juliet clause). These laws are specifically designed so that adult men do not take advantage of young girls and are generally within two years of each other (so a 17 yr old and a 18 yr old or a 17 yr old and a 19 yr old). Would I think 17 and 20 is a problem? Yes I would. I would certainly think 17 and 36 is a problem as would just about any person with any sense of decency.

I completely agree with you.
But what I'm trying to establish is what law he's broken.
Because if he hasn't broken a law, then justice will not be served (as stated by @junkoenoshima).

I think the law needs to change to protect 16/17 year old. It should nir be legal for someone un their 30s to be having a relationship with a 16 year old.

I’d agree. Although SC has a reputation for being harsh all I’ve read about him seems to indicate that he’s not sleazy or creepy in real life and actually behaves pretty well. I’ve also read that Hes actually polite and courteous to fans. I hope this is true - it’s almost a given now that celebrities are vile off-screen.

So how soon can Walliams be stripped of his OBE? I think. The government are in a slightly tricky position here (or the crown authorities). There are no formal charges so the government are going to be forced to act on allegations and web though the allegations are compelling it does set a precedent.

I think the OBE goes in time but it will be with public pressure.

I agree needs to be some thought put into this. Surely they can work something out which doesn’t criminalise appropriate relationships between young people. There is generally quite a lot of inconsistency and confusion around laws in relation to the 16-18 age group.

My dd recently had a situation where an older man in his 30s, married with kids, was pestering her 17 yo friend who is autistic. He was robustly chased off by the friendship group and the girl’s sister. But not everyone has these protective around them so I don’t know what we do about that.

I rememebr Chris Evans and Billie Piper. I think Billie has saved Chris's career by carefully being very effusive about their initial relationship.........(they met when she 15 and started dating at 17).

Neither did I. So many problems with it. It made me really uncomfortable.

I think fundamentally 16 is the age of consent to stop teenagers being criminalized and we need to review the law to reflect what society thinks about relationships between older men and 16/17 year olds. The DW case has shown the absurdity of a law that means a 17 year old sending an older man a sexy pic is a criminal offence but the older man is free to have legal consensual sex with that girl. I think we all know the law is somehow not right in this are but we don't know how to fix it through new law......

Is it conjecture? He was leading her to his hotel room rather than her own and she was completely wasted. I think it’s pretty bloody obvious what he was doing. No idea why you’re trying to excuse his actions.

I don’t mind his look and I can’t imagine him changing. I think he’s just a bit silly with an infantile sense of humour as you say. I know he was part of the party scene with Brand though which is why I worry. I’m not surprised by Brand or Walliams but Fielding would throw me.

I think the only one I was surprised by in recent years were Schofield and Huw Edwards in truth, the others seem more obvious?

I’ve always quite liked NF too but assuming he hasn’t been involved in anything nefarious doesn’t it still make him probably a bit of a prick? That type of a guy who is attracted to edgelordism and wants to be part of the hilarious bro gang and their ‘edgy’ ‘jokes’.

Deliberately, to make women think he's not a threat I strongly suspect.

Brand is similar, and least one of his victims said she thought he was gay.

Simon was aware of Walliams comments on BGT and did nothing.

They all knew.

Agree, it doesn't meet modern community standards.

Interestingly the Newsagents also had a thing about NDAs yesterday but about Brand rather than Walliams. Wonder how many are out there stopping women from speaking up about their assaults?

Richard Osman. also made the HR point that Lucy Beaumont was talking about with regard to Brand. He kept changing jobs and, other than the BBC, never really worked anywhere with recourse to HR.

Exactly. Disgusting.

Yes I think this about NF too. He's a ' follower' and maybe one of those guys who laughs along at disgusting behaviour from his mates so he can be fame adjacent. So yes disappointingly probably a prick but that's as far as it goes, I assume.

My husband keeps asking me why I’m angry because ‘we’re not all like that’. Of this I am aware but TOO many men are like that and it’s just so tiring. And it pisses me off that we NEED other men to call it out and stop it because nobody is listening to us women.