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Why is this man being celebrated?

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fizzywidget · 31/10/2026 06:31

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8rz38jr50go

so when his child was 8 years old he decided to leave the country and undertake a 28 year walk around the world, setting himself a rule that he couldn’t come back to the UK until he’d completed it, and we’ve celebrating him why?

Karl Bushby, wearing  a fleece and shorts, pushes a handcart along a fast rural road.  An orange hi-vis bib is attached to the front of the cart.

World trekker Karl Bushby's final push home to Hull

Global walker Karl Bushby is almost within sight of his journey's end after 28 years away.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8rz38jr50go

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strawberrybubblegum · 31/10/2026 14:30

AudHvamm · 31/10/2026 12:13

I don't think it's a waste of a life at all. Here is someone who stepped out of everything they'd been raised in and gained a totally different perspective, which they are now sharing with others.

"The world is an incredible place. People are worth all the effort. The species is an incredible thing. I’ve got a different attitude to the world; a slightly softer, left-leaning approach compared to some of the staunch politics in the UK right now.”

Not everyone is built the same, what's a waste to one person is growth to another.

His 'personal growth' rests on his abdication of any kind of responsibility to others, and just taking for himself.

What has he given to the world to balance out what he's taken?

David Attenborough is completely different because he has spent his life creating content which has been enjoyed by millions of people, and which has influenced behaviour. Ie actually making something of value.

It's fine to enjoy what you're building as you do it! But it should actually be useful, not pure self-indulgence off others' backs.

I haven't read this blokes book, but based on what he's done for the last few decades, it's pretty likely to be self-indulgent nonsense.

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 14:40

AudHvamm · 31/10/2026 13:04

I'm not policing you. You keep quoting me and replying with 2-3 words. I am finding that irritating.

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Thank you for feedback on my posts. You have said I’m getting in the way of the debate you wish to have. You have said that my shorter posts are irritating you.

Can I suggest that you just ignore me from now on and then you can have the debate you want and won’t be irritated any further.

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 14:45

strawberrybubblegum · 31/10/2026 14:30

His 'personal growth' rests on his abdication of any kind of responsibility to others, and just taking for himself.

What has he given to the world to balance out what he's taken?

David Attenborough is completely different because he has spent his life creating content which has been enjoyed by millions of people, and which has influenced behaviour. Ie actually making something of value.

It's fine to enjoy what you're building as you do it! But it should actually be useful, not pure self-indulgence off others' backs.

I haven't read this blokes book, but based on what he's done for the last few decades, it's pretty likely to be self-indulgent nonsense.

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I agree. David Attenborough was doing a job. He didn’t abandon his child as far as I know.

Noras · 31/10/2026 14:52

Oddly were there to be a film about all this he would make a lot of money and his son might ultimately be better off than he ever would have been otherwise.

The truth is that the mother had full custody not shared custody we don’t even know if the court allowed access at all. She went back to Belfast. He was a little bit lost as he had seen mates sleeping in the next beds shot and killed. His dad was highly successful in t army and there was parental pressure there to get in and succeed. He suffered from dyslexia, was bullied at school and made to feel inadequate and struggled to get into the paratroopers having to take the test 5 tines. He lived for the achievement of being in and doing well in the army and went from a killing machine ( as they are trained to be ) to doing nothing much as there was peace in the 1990s. At this pod t, he comes across as bring all over the place, impacted by his successful, dad, impacted by the training in the army, impacted by his marriage breakdown, impacted by seeing people he knew die to the extent that he got an idea in his head and had to see it though - the whole idea being odd and somewhat mad to be honest. So there seems to be a MH element to it all with this relentless, persistence above and beyond all things. He could have gone for a shorter challenge like other adventurers.

Clearly there is a lot more to all this but at the end of the day his wife had full custody of their son and went home.

Waitingfordoggo · 31/10/2026 15:03

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 14:45

I agree. David Attenborough was doing a job. He didn’t abandon his child as far as I know.

Yes, lots of people have jobs with very long hours or lots or travel that take them away from their families. Some parents do have to miss first steps/first day at school/school plays/sports days/exam seasons…

But 30 years is quite another thing really. He’s missed absolutely everything.

disturbia · 31/10/2026 16:14

Noras · 31/10/2026 14:52

Oddly were there to be a film about all this he would make a lot of money and his son might ultimately be better off than he ever would have been otherwise.

The truth is that the mother had full custody not shared custody we don’t even know if the court allowed access at all. She went back to Belfast. He was a little bit lost as he had seen mates sleeping in the next beds shot and killed. His dad was highly successful in t army and there was parental pressure there to get in and succeed. He suffered from dyslexia, was bullied at school and made to feel inadequate and struggled to get into the paratroopers having to take the test 5 tines. He lived for the achievement of being in and doing well in the army and went from a killing machine ( as they are trained to be ) to doing nothing much as there was peace in the 1990s. At this pod t, he comes across as bring all over the place, impacted by his successful, dad, impacted by the training in the army, impacted by his marriage breakdown, impacted by seeing people he knew die to the extent that he got an idea in his head and had to see it though - the whole idea being odd and somewhat mad to be honest. So there seems to be a MH element to it all with this relentless, persistence above and beyond all things. He could have gone for a shorter challenge like other adventurers.

Clearly there is a lot more to all this but at the end of the day his wife had full custody of their son and went home.

He must have done something wrong for his wife to get full custody of their child and then move to NI where he couldn't live.......I would rather hear her version of this..

Velumental · 31/10/2026 16:33

KTheGrey · 31/10/2026 10:54

Are you actually SO ANGRY you can't use the spacebar?

Yes, people do the best they can; do you not? You seem furious, and I assume that's the best you can do. Sad, but hardly inhuman.

No I'm so old I'm on my phone and not wearing my reading glasses. Are you ok yourself?

Velumental · 31/10/2026 16:36

Noras · 31/10/2026 14:52

Oddly were there to be a film about all this he would make a lot of money and his son might ultimately be better off than he ever would have been otherwise.

The truth is that the mother had full custody not shared custody we don’t even know if the court allowed access at all. She went back to Belfast. He was a little bit lost as he had seen mates sleeping in the next beds shot and killed. His dad was highly successful in t army and there was parental pressure there to get in and succeed. He suffered from dyslexia, was bullied at school and made to feel inadequate and struggled to get into the paratroopers having to take the test 5 tines. He lived for the achievement of being in and doing well in the army and went from a killing machine ( as they are trained to be ) to doing nothing much as there was peace in the 1990s. At this pod t, he comes across as bring all over the place, impacted by his successful, dad, impacted by the training in the army, impacted by his marriage breakdown, impacted by seeing people he knew die to the extent that he got an idea in his head and had to see it though - the whole idea being odd and somewhat mad to be honest. So there seems to be a MH element to it all with this relentless, persistence above and beyond all things. He could have gone for a shorter challenge like other adventurers.

Clearly there is a lot more to all this but at the end of the day his wife had full custody of their son and went home.

His wife had full custody and if he wasn't allowed access by the courts then surely he's even less to be celebrated? If he managed to lose custody completely through his own actions then great that he was a bit lost

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 17:10

Noras · 31/10/2026 14:52

Oddly were there to be a film about all this he would make a lot of money and his son might ultimately be better off than he ever would have been otherwise.

The truth is that the mother had full custody not shared custody we don’t even know if the court allowed access at all. She went back to Belfast. He was a little bit lost as he had seen mates sleeping in the next beds shot and killed. His dad was highly successful in t army and there was parental pressure there to get in and succeed. He suffered from dyslexia, was bullied at school and made to feel inadequate and struggled to get into the paratroopers having to take the test 5 tines. He lived for the achievement of being in and doing well in the army and went from a killing machine ( as they are trained to be ) to doing nothing much as there was peace in the 1990s. At this pod t, he comes across as bring all over the place, impacted by his successful, dad, impacted by the training in the army, impacted by his marriage breakdown, impacted by seeing people he knew die to the extent that he got an idea in his head and had to see it though - the whole idea being odd and somewhat mad to be honest. So there seems to be a MH element to it all with this relentless, persistence above and beyond all things. He could have gone for a shorter challenge like other adventurers.

Clearly there is a lot more to all this but at the end of the day his wife had full custody of their son and went home.

How do you know all that?

Full custody = Alarm bells.

Noras · 31/10/2026 18:37

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 17:10

How do you know all that?

Full custody = Alarm bells.

it’s all on the internet. There are numerous recordings / interviews etc.

I suspect that he was a bit of a lost soul when he left the country in many ways. But that is my speculation.

Noras · 31/10/2026 18:44

More of his background from the Guardian

Bushby grew up in a military family. His father, Keith, is an SAS veteran who spent 24 years in the British army, and his younger brother, Adrian, is also an army man. His mother, another Angela, worked in a factory.
School, Bushby says, was a “living hell”. Dyslexic (though undiagnosed), he was branded as “thick”, and found solace in birdwatching. He left school at 16 with no qualifications and joined the junior Parachute regiment. But he struggled with the physical demands, and took five attempts to pass the gruelling P Company training before eventually joining the 3rd battalion of the Parachute regiment. Some mocked him for his repeated failures, but others were impressed by his tenacity. “Normally, they’ll allow you two or three attempts.” Why did he get five? “Because I wouldn’t quit … that was probably one of the first signs. I just won’t let go. I’m a bit of a rottweiler.”
Bushby remained an outsider in the paras, not least because he didn’t like booze. “I was never a beer drinker. And that’s very bad news in the army. Very difficult. It can be a problem.” Throughout his military career, he felt his peers didn’t trust or respect him.
In his early 20s, stationed in Northern Ireland, he married a Belfast woman, yet another Angela. Five years later, when they were living in Hampshire, they divorced. She returned home to Belfast with their young son, Adam. At the time, servicemen were only allowed into Northern Ireland if they were serving there, so Bushby was effectively separated from Adam.
There was another thing gnawing away at him. A professional, or existential, crisis. The world was at peace, which was catastrophic for those who had joined the military hoping to see action. Between 1990 and 1995, the British army was downsized from 160,000 to 120,000. Bushby kept his job, but he was bored and restless. “We were not being used. There was nothing going on. I was one of those guys looking for other challenges in life. We were all disillusioned because of the lack of action – the “peace disease”, as the Chinese refer to it. It’s hard to keep an army in combat fighting conditions when there’s nothing to do. As young soldiers, you’re up for the fight, and you end up in Northern Ireland on sentry on a gate every day. It’s not very appealing.”

Noras · 31/10/2026 18:45

New York Times

Bushby spent 12 years in the 3rd Battalion of the Parachute Regiment before quitting the army at the end of 1997. He was reeling from a bitter divorce and itching to prove himself.
“I had something to prove to my paratrooper mates,” he told Backpacker magazine.

The Long Way Home

When Karl Bushby set out to hike 36,000 miles across four continents, he vowed he would only return to his native England on foot. Which could be a real problem if he ever wants to get there.

https://www.backpacker.com/trips/adventure-travel/the-long-way-home/?scope=anon

Holidaymodeon · 01/11/2026 11:29

Urgh I know someone like this, celebrated for his volunteer work in obscure locations on the opposite side of the world while his wife was left alone bringing up multiple children , he was an actual pig to her too

OneoftheWeddingPeople · 01/11/2026 13:34

Maybe not a book and film could be another Salt Path debacle!

Earheads · 01/11/2026 13:35

Agree.
What a selfish self absorbed twat.
Poor ex and son.
What a selfish loser.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/11/2026 14:21

OneoftheWeddingPeople · 01/11/2026 13:34

Maybe not a book and film could be another Salt Path debacle!

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Could Mumsnet servers even cope with that amount of threads/poems/songs/AI slop?

InQuiresandplaceswheretheysing · 01/11/2026 15:42

I wondered that. He practically abandoned his son as a young child, and has a twelve year old granddaughter he’s never met. Incredibly selfish.

sharkjumper · 01/11/2026 16:03

I read about him and my first thought was that he was selfish and second was to wonder whether there was independent verification of the crossing of the Darien Gap and of the Channel.

dapsnotplimsolls · 01/11/2026 17:42

He's due to arrive in Hull tomorrow. I'd be more impressed if he'd done it in one go.

NotGerrysSneakyBeak · 02/11/2026 00:09

Sounds like self-indulgent twaddle.

LlamasDramas · 02/11/2026 08:48

He's just been interviewed on BBC Breakfast. He seems to be extremely nervous about 'reconnecting' with family now that he is back in the UK. You would have thought he would be ecstatic about returning and completing the challenge. Instead he was very anxious in the interview and seemed genuinely worried about the next stage.

It's going to be extremely hard for him to settle back into some kind of conventional life. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't set himself another 'adventure' to escape again.

VenusStarr · 02/11/2026 09:06

I just saw the BBC breakfast interview. It was odd that when asked what's next, he said he has to tell the story, people want to know. So felt like he's on a mission to 'sell' his story. The interviewers were trying hard to engage him but he was very detached and quite blunted. It was quite uncomfortable to watch.

LlamasDramas · 02/11/2026 09:16

It was quite uncomfortable to watch. @VenusStarr

Yes, it was really uncomfortable watching it. He didn't appear to be excited at all about seeing his family and being back in England. No enthusiasm. Almost as though he was depressed.

Nevermissabeat · 02/11/2026 13:28

Bbc news are covering his arrival home 🙄.

Shall I bugger off around the world for 25 years and leave my family behind?

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