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Why is this man being celebrated?

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fizzywidget · 31/10/2026 06:31

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8rz38jr50go

so when his child was 8 years old he decided to leave the country and undertake a 28 year walk around the world, setting himself a rule that he couldn’t come back to the UK until he’d completed it, and we’ve celebrating him why?

Karl Bushby, wearing  a fleece and shorts, pushes a handcart along a fast rural road.  An orange hi-vis bib is attached to the front of the cart.

World trekker Karl Bushby's final push home to Hull

Global walker Karl Bushby is almost within sight of his journey's end after 28 years away.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8rz38jr50go

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PeasOff · 31/10/2026 11:35

Piss poor excuse for a parent. I wonder how his child will feel about his return and no doubt expected reconciliation.

Summerfridays · 31/10/2026 11:38

I guarantee if it was a woman there would have been questions along the lines of 'do you have any regrets for missing out on such a significant portion of your son's childhood and life?'

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 11:38

PeasOff · 31/10/2026 11:35

Piss poor excuse for a parent. I wonder how his child will feel about his return and no doubt expected reconciliation.

I just read that he joined him for part of the walk. So at least they have had some time together in the last 28 years. But all on his terms and once he is an adult and needs nothing. No sacrifice required.

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 11:40

Burningbud1981 · 31/10/2026 10:43

The only people criticising him are on here ?

Take a look - lots of criticism- from dads who could never imagine doing that.

LateLifeReturnee · 31/10/2026 11:45

blubberyboo · 31/10/2026 11:08

You just cut and pasted this from earlier without addressing the point that he instead chose to live in far more dangerous places and carry out life risking activities through his own choice.

Sorry - didn't know it posted twice.

I'd say a nationalist area in Northern Ireland is probably the miost dangerous place he could go.

But as others have said, they could have met somewhere else.

strawberrybubblegum · 31/10/2026 11:49

What a huge waste of a life. 10 years of working... then lived off other people's generosity whilst doing something completely pointless and self-indulgent for the rest of his life-building years.

"We joke sometimes that Karl doesn't love walking. But he loves the mission. He loves the passion, the purpose."

But there was no purpose.

No point.

Pity he didn't find something more useful to put his life's energy into: work, family, community... any of these would have been worthwhile. But just walking? No.

PeasOff · 31/10/2026 12:06

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 11:38

I just read that he joined him for part of the walk. So at least they have had some time together in the last 28 years. But all on his terms and once he is an adult and needs nothing. No sacrifice required.

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What a surprise 🤦🏼‍♀️

I honestly cannot understand how someone can effectively abandon their child for such a nonsensical 'mission'.

Summerfridays · 31/10/2026 12:06

strawberrybubblegum · 31/10/2026 11:49

What a huge waste of a life. 10 years of working... then lived off other people's generosity whilst doing something completely pointless and self-indulgent for the rest of his life-building years.

"We joke sometimes that Karl doesn't love walking. But he loves the mission. He loves the passion, the purpose."

But there was no purpose.

No point.

Pity he didn't find something more useful to put his life's energy into: work, family, community... any of these would have been worthwhile. But just walking? No.

Reminds me of the salt path walkers Ray Winn and her husband Moth.

He kept going back to spend time in Mexico and then resuming from there. Lots of it make no sense. Lots of holes in the story

AudHvamm · 31/10/2026 12:13

strawberrybubblegum · 31/10/2026 11:49

What a huge waste of a life. 10 years of working... then lived off other people's generosity whilst doing something completely pointless and self-indulgent for the rest of his life-building years.

"We joke sometimes that Karl doesn't love walking. But he loves the mission. He loves the passion, the purpose."

But there was no purpose.

No point.

Pity he didn't find something more useful to put his life's energy into: work, family, community... any of these would have been worthwhile. But just walking? No.

I don't think it's a waste of a life at all. Here is someone who stepped out of everything they'd been raised in and gained a totally different perspective, which they are now sharing with others.

"The world is an incredible place. People are worth all the effort. The species is an incredible thing. I’ve got a different attitude to the world; a slightly softer, left-leaning approach compared to some of the staunch politics in the UK right now.”

Not everyone is built the same, what's a waste to one person is growth to another.

KnickerBockerGloriously · 31/10/2026 12:15

I don't understand why OP even started this thread.

It's 'news'. The feature is not celebrating him. It's factual so you can make up your own mind about it.

Why is anyone investing emotional energy to comment on a man they don't know?

There are odd-bods and bad parents everywhere.

He most likely has MH issues and this is his way of coping with his life. None of us know the whole story.

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 12:22

AudHvamm · 31/10/2026 12:13

I don't think it's a waste of a life at all. Here is someone who stepped out of everything they'd been raised in and gained a totally different perspective, which they are now sharing with others.

"The world is an incredible place. People are worth all the effort. The species is an incredible thing. I’ve got a different attitude to the world; a slightly softer, left-leaning approach compared to some of the staunch politics in the UK right now.”

Not everyone is built the same, what's a waste to one person is growth to another.

He abandoned his son.

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 12:27

KnickerBockerGloriously · 31/10/2026 12:15

I don't understand why OP even started this thread.

It's 'news'. The feature is not celebrating him. It's factual so you can make up your own mind about it.

Why is anyone investing emotional energy to comment on a man they don't know?

There are odd-bods and bad parents everywhere.

He most likely has MH issues and this is his way of coping with his life. None of us know the whole story.

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Because it’s very clear example of the different standards that women are held to. Especially mothers. And this a forum for mothers.

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 12:30

Summerfridays · 31/10/2026 12:10

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2023/aug/16/take-the-high-road-the-man-who-visited-every-country-in-the-world-without-boarding-a-plane

Very similar to this man. He said 'he was born to do this' and left a partner behind for 10 years to do it.

I would love to set off on an adventure like that but can’t because I am a mother.

It would also be less safe for a woman to travel alone.

Men really don’t realise the privilege they have.

AudHvamm · 31/10/2026 12:49

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 12:22

He abandoned his son.

You spent half of this thread arguing he was abusive and that's why the mother had to move to another country. Surely in that case they would have been better off without him?

Your resentment that men can behave this way because women are socialised to be the default parent is getting in the way of any more interesting discussion about whether adventuring holds any value for society and how that weighs up against the burden of people left behind or those who provide unrecognised support.

Waitingfordoggo · 31/10/2026 12:51

Anewusernametoday · 31/10/2026 06:59

“Family is family, right?" says Bushby.
"They're always going to be there. But there will be strain. There will be distance. So much so that you've grown apart to some degree. You don't really know each other anymore”

i find this sad. Family isn’t always going you be there and his decision to walk the world will have been the reason there is strain.

Did he really say that? What an idiot. Time with our loved ones is so precious and so special precisely because they aren’t always going to be there. Life is short and fragile.

Mumof16 · 31/10/2026 12:52

It’s certainly an elaborate way to get out of the responsibilities of child rearing

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 12:58

AudHvamm · 31/10/2026 12:49

You spent half of this thread arguing he was abusive and that's why the mother had to move to another country. Surely in that case they would have been better off without him?

Your resentment that men can behave this way because women are socialised to be the default parent is getting in the way of any more interesting discussion about whether adventuring holds any value for society and how that weighs up against the burden of people left behind or those who provide unrecognised support.

Both things are true. He has abandoned his child which isn’t ok. And he could have worked on himself to ensure he was the best dad and co-parent he could be, including if he was abusive.

The wider societal issues for women are also true. I’m not interested in any benefits to society of his endeavour. It was selfishly
motivated. He’s now trying to monetise it.

Why are you so intent on policing what I say?

And I haven’t argued that he was abusive. I have said that I would be surprised if he wasn’t and then explained my reasoning. I’d love to hear the mother of his child’s perspective.

If you feel I’m getting in the way of a debate you would rather have then ignore me and contribute something that creates the debate you want.

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 13:00

AudHvamm · 31/10/2026 12:13

I don't think it's a waste of a life at all. Here is someone who stepped out of everything they'd been raised in and gained a totally different perspective, which they are now sharing with others.

"The world is an incredible place. People are worth all the effort. The species is an incredible thing. I’ve got a different attitude to the world; a slightly softer, left-leaning approach compared to some of the staunch politics in the UK right now.”

Not everyone is built the same, what's a waste to one person is growth to another.

“People are worth all the effort”

Unless it means me sacrificing what I want for them eh?

AudHvamm · 31/10/2026 13:04

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 12:58

Both things are true. He has abandoned his child which isn’t ok. And he could have worked on himself to ensure he was the best dad and co-parent he could be, including if he was abusive.

The wider societal issues for women are also true. I’m not interested in any benefits to society of his endeavour. It was selfishly
motivated. He’s now trying to monetise it.

Why are you so intent on policing what I say?

And I haven’t argued that he was abusive. I have said that I would be surprised if he wasn’t and then explained my reasoning. I’d love to hear the mother of his child’s perspective.

If you feel I’m getting in the way of a debate you would rather have then ignore me and contribute something that creates the debate you want.

I'm not policing you. You keep quoting me and replying with 2-3 words. I am finding that irritating.

AnswerIsNo · 31/10/2026 13:11

Hull?

Ronnie Pickering will pull up alongside soon in his red Citroen Picasso,

asking other random road users to help him remember who he is

AudHvamm · 31/10/2026 13:28

BlueStripeBowl · 31/10/2026 13:00

“People are worth all the effort”

Unless it means me sacrificing what I want for them eh?

No. I'm really interested in the wider value this way of being in the world can have. Take David Attenborough for example, he's a serial adverturer whose passion translated into masterful storytelling about animals and humans and I think have influenced a whole generation. I'm sure his wife had to carry all the childrearing to enable that. Most people think he's wonderful and celebrate him.

Gertrude Bell was hugely influential in the formation of what we now call the Middle East. What would have needed to be different in society for her to have done that and had children?

Beachtastic · 31/10/2026 13:38

HousePlantEmergency · 31/10/2026 10:26

A very small extract from his Wikipedia page:

On 1 November 1998, Bushby set off from Punta Arenas, Chile. His route through South America took him through Argentina, Peru, Ecuador, and Colombia. Entering Central America required Bushby to cross the inhospitable Darién Gap. Many locals expected him to be killed or abducted by the paramilitary Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), which viewed all foreigners as potentially part of the U.S.-backed Plan Colombia initiative. Bushby successfully evaded FARC guerillas and entered Panama in February 2001, although he spent 18 days in a jail in Metetí for entering the country without a visa.

For a man with PTSD following years in service? Putting himself knowingly in further danger (alone with no backup) and potentially leaving his child fatherless?

Not to mention the amount of time and money spent by well meaning sponsors and various government officials working on his behalf to secure visas for him.

Perhaps the years of service made ordinary life rather dull. If you watch SAS: Who Dares Wins, the DS do say that the excitement of danger is hard to beat.

PuppyKeep · 31/10/2026 13:41

I hope his blisters pop

Banjas · 31/10/2026 14:09

Waitingfordoggo · 31/10/2026 12:51

Did he really say that? What an idiot. Time with our loved ones is so precious and so special precisely because they aren’t always going to be there. Life is short and fragile.

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