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To think husband doesn't get to have it both ways re children?

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 07:16

My husband has two older children and we have younger DC together.

Since they have been older (12 & 14) he has got into the habit of leaving them at home at the weekend whilst he goes to work (SE so can definitely choose whether to go or not) often not telling me about this until the night before / day of.

He will say it doesn't matter because they are old enough to look after themselves so makes no difference to me. Fine.

I have taken to thinking well I'll just get on with my day then as normal if he says it makes no difference to me I.e. Still going out with the little ones etc..

He will make comments about this though sometimes like if I'm out over lunch time asking me if DSC have eaten, what they have for lunch, should be making sure they have something. Or even sometimes saying it's mean of me not to take DSC out with me if I end up going somewhere they might light for example I once had a trip to a big aquarium/zoo place planned with my sister and our younger children and he was pissed that I didn't immediately take DSC with me when I found out he had decided to go in work, instead they stayed home alone all day.

I just think he wants his cake and to eat it too. You can't say oh it makes no difference to you because they can look after themselves so I'm going out and then in the same breath moan about me not looking after them? Can they look after themselves or not? If they can then it shouldn't matter that I get on with my day, if they can't then he should be at home or at the very least asking me if it's okay.

What do you think?

OP posts:
Everythinggreen · 04/04/2024 09:43

I think you're both pretty thoughtless and have a rotten attitude towards the kids "older DC" when one is 12. Let's see if you say you have "older dc" when yours is 12 as you seem to be using it like they don't need any adult around at all, as if they're older teens.

DH is the worst in this and needs to step up his duties as a dad, however I couldn't be as cold and mean as you appear to be, to any kids who weren't doing anything wrong.

Naunet · 04/04/2024 09:45

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😂 yes, no blame on Cinderella’s uninvolved father of course. What a bizarre post, and I’m speaking as someone with a step mum and a step dad. It wasn’t my step parents that ‘destroyed’ me, it was my actual parents and their lack of interest.

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 09:45

@MarygoldRose she actually was told she couldn't or given so many chores she couldn't get ready in time depending on the version.

Comparing kids that are happy doing their own thing, have friends to hang out with and that when they do get invited places they say no most of the time is fucking ridiculous and exaggeration for the sake of it.

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 09:45

Everythinggreen · 04/04/2024 09:43

I think you're both pretty thoughtless and have a rotten attitude towards the kids "older DC" when one is 12. Let's see if you say you have "older dc" when yours is 12 as you seem to be using it like they don't need any adult around at all, as if they're older teens.

DH is the worst in this and needs to step up his duties as a dad, however I couldn't be as cold and mean as you appear to be, to any kids who weren't doing anything wrong.

They are older, as in older than my DC... 😂

OP posts:
Nowayhayday · 04/04/2024 09:47

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 08:56

like bowling do something the older ones would like

I'm not arranging bowling for teens with two toddlers in tow 😂

This could be your kids one day, staying with the new step mum.
Bowling works really well - there are air things that go up when the toddlers play, and then down when the non-toddler plays.
There aren't two teens, 12 is simply not a teenager. I suspect your opinion of how independent this age range is will change when it's your own dc.

LutonBeds · 04/04/2024 09:48

LutonBeds · 04/04/2024 09:30

Who would you lose your shit at? I hope it’s their dad, contact time is for them to see him, not for him to work. I wonder who is expected to pay for these outings too. If it’s OP then he’s taking the piss

OP says in the first post that he’s SE so can choose to work or not. Presumably she knows better than any of us.

I was in an LTR with a chap who had DC many years ago, him and his ex arranged contact time for his days off (also SE). There were times when it happened that either parent would be at work and DC at home alone (he ran a pub so they were never in the building by themselves). Neither he nor his ex-w expected me to be childcare or alter my plans. They sorted it between themselves and friends/family.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 09:49

Nowayhayday · 04/04/2024 09:47

This could be your kids one day, staying with the new step mum.
Bowling works really well - there are air things that go up when the toddlers play, and then down when the non-toddler plays.
There aren't two teens, 12 is simply not a teenager. I suspect your opinion of how independent this age range is will change when it's your own dc.

No, staying with their father.

I doubt OP would be expecting the stepmother to be providing childcare and/or entertainment in this scenario.

chocolatemademefat · 04/04/2024 09:49

He’s selfish and so are you. You surely knew he had kids when you got together with him. It must make them feel really wanted when he disappears to work and you swan off with YOUR children on days out.

instead of putting yourself first think what you can do for his children - if I was their mother I’d be reconsidering the visits as neither you nor your DH are giving them what they need.

he came as part of a family unit - the pair of you need to give yourselves a shake.

MostlyHappyMummy · 04/04/2024 09:50

Your husband doesn't mean they don't need taking care of, he means he doesn't need to do it just that he expects you to.
Interesting attitude

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 09:51

chocolatemademefat · 04/04/2024 09:49

He’s selfish and so are you. You surely knew he had kids when you got together with him. It must make them feel really wanted when he disappears to work and you swan off with YOUR children on days out.

instead of putting yourself first think what you can do for his children - if I was their mother I’d be reconsidering the visits as neither you nor your DH are giving them what they need.

he came as part of a family unit - the pair of you need to give yourselves a shake.

Except their mother knows and doesn't mind and does the same thing herself.

Iwasafool · 04/04/2024 09:52

LegalAlienWooHoo · 04/04/2024 07:21

Poor kids

Yes that's what stands out.

MsRosley · 04/04/2024 09:54

We have some teens in our neighbourhood who are out ‘running free’ without direction or activities for hours and hours on end. They are engaging in all sorts of undesirable activities.

Gosh, unsupervised children shocker. Call social services! Christ knows how a whole generation of us survived perfectly well without being chaperoned every moment of every day. Thrived a lot better than subsequent generations arguably.

Netball01 · 04/04/2024 09:56

Sorry but proving a point at the expense of your Step-Children is really nasty behaviour, those poor kids.

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 09:56

Hats off to those who have two year olds who'd sit / play through a whole game of bowling. It would be a nightmare imo personally.

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 09:56

chocolatemademefat · 04/04/2024 09:49

He’s selfish and so are you. You surely knew he had kids when you got together with him. It must make them feel really wanted when he disappears to work and you swan off with YOUR children on days out.

instead of putting yourself first think what you can do for his children - if I was their mother I’d be reconsidering the visits as neither you nor your DH are giving them what they need.

he came as part of a family unit - the pair of you need to give yourselves a shake.

She isn’t responsible for thinking of what she can do for his children when he fails to do so. That just gives him the green light to keep on dumping it on her because she’s supposed to ‘think of the children’.

He came with children HE is responsible for. Providing childcare did not become OP’s responsibility when she married him. She didn’t gain any parental responsibility for them upon marriage at all, actually.

Iwasafool · 04/04/2024 09:57

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 09:13

I don't think I've contradicted anything. I didn't say in my OP I have never invited them anywhere ever. I do sometimes, not all the time, not even most of the time as a lot of the outings I go on just aren't suitable for older kids (no 14 yo is going to want to go to soft play for example) and I also never said I refuse to make them anything to eat if I'm literally there in the house making my own lunch, why would I?

My point was, if I am out of the house I'm not going to concern myself with whether or not DSC are eating lunch or who's going to make it for them etc.. as apparently, according to DH, they don't need looking after. I'm certainly not going to hang around at home all day waiting for them to get out of bed so I can make food for them or go out at 12/1pm when they decide they want to get out of bed.

Depends on the kids. My teenage GC often come along to stuff with their little cousins, they claim to be helping me or just like spending time with them but I think secretly they like the excuse to do kid stuff. Not cool to be going to a Disney film at 16, very cool to be taking cute 4year old cousin. Teenage girls seem to really like boys who are looking after little ones.

nutbrownhare15 · 04/04/2024 10:00

I'd be like a broken record every time. 'I don't know if they've eaten darling, you said they don't need looking after and that's why you've gone to work today. If they do need looking after I suggest you come home/don't work weekends any more when they are here'. And repeat every time he asks.

Naunet · 04/04/2024 10:00

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 09:56

Hats off to those who have two year olds who'd sit / play through a whole game of bowling. It would be a nightmare imo personally.

Does he ever take all his kids out by himself?

Luxell934 · 04/04/2024 10:03

Popchippps · 04/04/2024 09:38

I’m missing the point but why are you with him?
He would rather work than spend any time with his dcs or you?

what does he bring to the relationship?

Like money I’m assuming. Like paying the mortgage, electric bill, etc 🤣🤣

I’d rather spend all my time with my husband and kids but I have to pay the mortgage and eat.

Bollindger · 04/04/2024 10:04

Poor children...NOT
You do know children around the teens just want their beds till about 2ish...
Honest I bet the little darlings love being left alone.
What you could do is talk to them, say you both feel guilty and is there anything they want to do?
You do ask, so that is fine.

bellezarara · 04/04/2024 10:05

Luxell934 · 04/04/2024 08:59

If he has the kids 50-50 then surely he will have to be working a lot of the time he has them at your house? Unless your both very wealthy and paying bills etc isn’t an issue then he has to go out and work surely?

Would you be happy OP if your husband only works on days he doesn’t have his older children? That would possibly mean bringing home less money and also spending less time with you and your younger children??

Edited

He chooses to work weekends. He could work Monday-Friday when the kids are at school and then spend the weekends he has his kids with them.

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 04/04/2024 10:05

Bunnycat101 · 04/04/2024 07:44

I think it’s fine for you to do stuff and crack on with the little ones but it also would kill you to plan something everyone could enjoy like bowling do something the older ones would like. It is shit their dad is buggering off on contact days but you also have a choice whether to dig in and make a point or try and make it a bit nicer for them. How engaged is he with them when he comes back from work?

Not it wouldn’t kill her im sure, but it wouldn’t kill their ACTUAL parent either. The OP is not in the wrong here or to blame at all. Their shit dad is.

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 10:05

Netball01 · 04/04/2024 09:56

Sorry but proving a point at the expense of your Step-Children is really nasty behaviour, those poor kids.

It's not proving a point, it's taking a statement(that's not necessarily incorrect) to face value. What is she supposed to do when the SC don't want to join her? Cancel plans and stay home all day?

Jumpingthruhoops · 04/04/2024 10:06

I kinda think YA(both)BU.

He leaves the DSC home because, in his words, they're 'old enough to look after themselves'.

However, you then make plans to take your younger joint DC out for the day and don't include the DSC because they're 'old enough to look after themselves'.

Sorry, but that just comes across as mean. Either you're just pissed at being 'dumped on' and are doing this to make a point to your DH. Or you genuinely don't like your DSC. Really hope it's the former.

Whatifthehokeycokey · 04/04/2024 10:07

"Have DCS had lunch?"
"They've come for the weekend to spend time with you, DH. You need to parent them."

"Why didn't you take DSC to the aquarium?"
"They haven't come over to spend time with me, DH. They've come to spend time with their Dad."

"What did DSC have for lunch?"
"You're their Dad, DH."

"I'm a bit confused here, DH. Because you said they're old enough look after themselves but you keep asking me if I'm looking after them? If they're not old enough to look after themselves, don't you think you should come home and be with them?"

Over and over again.