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To think husband doesn't get to have it both ways re children?

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 07:16

My husband has two older children and we have younger DC together.

Since they have been older (12 & 14) he has got into the habit of leaving them at home at the weekend whilst he goes to work (SE so can definitely choose whether to go or not) often not telling me about this until the night before / day of.

He will say it doesn't matter because they are old enough to look after themselves so makes no difference to me. Fine.

I have taken to thinking well I'll just get on with my day then as normal if he says it makes no difference to me I.e. Still going out with the little ones etc..

He will make comments about this though sometimes like if I'm out over lunch time asking me if DSC have eaten, what they have for lunch, should be making sure they have something. Or even sometimes saying it's mean of me not to take DSC out with me if I end up going somewhere they might light for example I once had a trip to a big aquarium/zoo place planned with my sister and our younger children and he was pissed that I didn't immediately take DSC with me when I found out he had decided to go in work, instead they stayed home alone all day.

I just think he wants his cake and to eat it too. You can't say oh it makes no difference to you because they can look after themselves so I'm going out and then in the same breath moan about me not looking after them? Can they look after themselves or not? If they can then it shouldn't matter that I get on with my day, if they can't then he should be at home or at the very least asking me if it's okay.

What do you think?

OP posts:
Seaweed42 · 04/04/2024 14:18

How far away is their Dad's workplace? How far away is the mother's place?
Say if the 14yr old cut his/her finger badly making a sandwich and both of you were out what would they do?

Your questions are indicating that their Dad is not that bothered/places no importance in spending time with his kids.

This includes your young kids too, so you have that to look forward to.

What did he do before you two had your own kids?

Was he behaving like this or did he stay home with them on the weekends at that point?

He's just not that bothered with kids they are pesky and annoying and work is more interesting and fun at the weekends than listening to that racket.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 14:18

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 14:15

Oh your one of them petty people who have to have the last say 🙄 getting away from the point of thread there 🤭

Says the poster that threw in a ‘yawn’, because your level of sleep deprivation is of course an important and on-topic contribution 😂

You’re not required to engage. Feel free to run along and take that nap.

Iaskedyouthrice · 04/04/2024 14:22

LaPalmaLlama · 04/04/2024 14:16

Child Neglect House of Horror: 14 year old has to make own sandwich while left in house alone for 4 whole hours.

What an abomination!!

@paulaparticles would be horrified with my very own House of Horror. Mine make their own lunches sometimes mine too AND have to cook dinner once a week 😱They have to, shock horror, clean up after themselves too! I should be ashamed of myself for trying to raise practical, independent, well rounded kids. I forget step children are exempt from this!

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 14:22

@paulaparticles since she is happy to leave them home for her to go out , what makes you think that?

You completely made up a narrative of poor neglected children and an in the dark mother that is based on nothing but projection.

rainbowstardrops · 04/04/2024 14:26

So you're not desperate for money right now but your husband actively chooses to go to work at the weekend, despite having your DSC and his children with you at home?
How posters can put this on you is unbelievable!

Lordofmyflies · 04/04/2024 14:26

Your husband sounds an absolute asshole OP. I'd find that sort of selfish behaviour a complete turn-off. He either needs to stop working at weekends and be a parent to his kids or at least have the decency to talk to their mother and re-arrange the contact order so that the kids can stay with their mother.
TBH he sounds a pretty crap Dad to your kids too if you're left single parenting them all weekend after working all week. What exactly does he do as a parent?

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 14:27

Abbie22222 · 04/04/2024 14:06

Both of you need to remember there are two children in the middle of this who are being brought up to feel like neither of you care about them enough to spend any time with them. Husband needs to stop working on a weekend unless necessary, and you both need to start doing activities that suit the whole family - at the moment, his older children are being taught that his job and the shiny new children are more important than them. Speaking from experience, I have no contact with my dad as an adult due to how much of an inconvenience I was made to feel in the same situation. Discuss like adults and come up with a plan of how to be a functioning blended family.

OP cooks for them, cares for them and their needs (washing,cleaning etc) , ferries them around to and from clubs, bothers to let them know she's going out and checks they're ok, even invites them out sometimes. What more do you want?

She cares and does more than their actual parent.

Hibernating80 · 04/04/2024 14:29

You're really punishing the children. Yes your DH should check rather than assume you will look after them etc. But you're making your point at the expense of the children's emotional welfare. I think you need to be kind and treat your family much better.

Iaskedyouthrice · 04/04/2024 14:30

What IS your dh expected to do @PickledFrog ? It sounds like you have taken on most of their care. Why? I would be handing that back over to him. Does he do anything for any of his kids?

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 14:31

The children seem to be an inconvenience to all adults.
Posters own words that they were left regularly at night..how would the dad not be concerned or any adult not be concerned 😶 of course it's neglect how is it not ? Neglective parenting even if it's not illegal 🙄
I said myself that sometimes during the day is acceptable for a short while. But no parent to look after them at night regularly is ok with you all 🤔 Make a mockery of me for this then go ahead.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 14:33

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 14:18

Says the poster that threw in a ‘yawn’, because your level of sleep deprivation is of course an important and on-topic contribution 😂

You’re not required to engage. Feel free to run along and take that nap.

Trying to stick to point of thread...you should take my lead..like a bratty child who has to have last word

Iaskedyouthrice · 04/04/2024 14:33

I agree with you there @paulaparticles , their parents seem abit lacking. It's a good job OP has willingly taken on most of their care when they are at her house otherwise what kind of life would they have?

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 14:34

Hibernating80 · 04/04/2024 14:29

You're really punishing the children. Yes your DH should check rather than assume you will look after them etc. But you're making your point at the expense of the children's emotional welfare. I think you need to be kind and treat your family much better.

Edited

No she’s not. She’s just not accepting more responsibility for them than their actual parents, both of whom leave them unattended.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 14:37

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 14:33

Trying to stick to point of thread...you should take my lead..like a bratty child who has to have last word

Yet here you still are, still not talking about the subject of the thread. It seems you don’t in fact want me to be following your lead.

What was that about the last word again?

Gymnopedie · 04/04/2024 14:43

OP doesn't say that DH works because they need the money. She says he's self employed so doesn't need to, which makes it sound like they don't. That leaves the alternative - he does it to get out of parenting his own children.

PPs saying OP is horrible for not taking them out. Why doesn't HE take them out? It's supposed to be his contact time, but he does sod all contact if he's at work. i bet he thought all his Christmases had come at once when he got together with OP - ah, he thought. Another woman I can palm childcare on to.

Yes it's awful for the kids if they have two crap parents. But the OP doesn't have to compensate for that.

bellezarara · 04/04/2024 14:45

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 13:50

Her main problem is that her dh told her they don't need much looking after and by asking her if they've eaten it's made her feel like her responsibility after all.
So she has to prove her point that they do and wants to be and I quote "asked by him " to look after them rather than just doing so. To 'prove her point'
poor poor children regardless what all you heartless people say.
Change the custody arrangements. Dad should pay up for them instead.

@paulaparticles you're literally making zero sense.

In your previous post you said OP and DH should have custody: Omg you keep reminding everyone that their mum leaves them home alone to go out at night etc...neglect. Why aren't you both going for full custody.

And now you're saying the ex should have custody.

Make up your mind will ya!!

Garlicnaan · 04/04/2024 14:48

OP why are you putting up with this shit?

Working all week, then looking after your own DC all weekend, doing the washing / cooking for all, picking up at least some of the slack for SC as well or getting grief for not.

What does your DP bring?

Italiangreyhound · 04/04/2024 14:52

Agree with DustyLee123

"Just remember that he’d treat your kids the same if you split up. He’s not a good dad"

I think you need to remind him of his responsibilities.

if the children are 12 & 14 it's quite unlikely they would want to go out with their much younger siblings for the day.

The OP needs to look after and entertain the younger kids.

12 & 14 year olds are perfectly capable of making themselves lunch. But I do feel that someone should be checking in on them. The 'contact' is for the kids and their dad, their dad sounds like he is a total twat who would rather make money than spend time with his kids. Very sad.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/04/2024 14:56

rainbowstardrops · 04/04/2024 14:26

So you're not desperate for money right now but your husband actively chooses to go to work at the weekend, despite having your DSC and his children with you at home?
How posters can put this on you is unbelievable!

I can easily believe it if they’re doing what MN does best - picking things out of the air that OP’s haven’t said, and projecting their own experiences instead of looking at the facts.

Hankunamatata · 04/04/2024 14:59

My teens the same survive weekend on subways and pot noodles - they can cook but choose not to. They hand around the house, game and play football.
As long as op is communicating with the teens about weekend then don't see the issue. If they had a burning desire to go with op and their young siblings I'm sure they would say something.

BillyNotQuiteNoMates · 04/04/2024 15:01

I’d be furious if my children were being left to their own devises while my ex was in work and his partner couldn’t be bothered to even feed my children. Those poor kids!

Joanissy · 04/04/2024 15:02

Poor kids

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 15:04

bellezarara · 04/04/2024 14:45

@paulaparticles you're literally making zero sense.

In your previous post you said OP and DH should have custody: Omg you keep reminding everyone that their mum leaves them home alone to go out at night etc...neglect. Why aren't you both going for full custody.

And now you're saying the ex should have custody.

Make up your mind will ya!!

Info in the thread changed and I obviously changed my tone along with it... rtft...

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 15:05

BillyNotQuiteNoMates · 04/04/2024 15:01

I’d be furious if my children were being left to their own devises while my ex was in work and his partner couldn’t be bothered to even feed my children. Those poor kids!

Good for you. What do you want? A cookie? Their mother feels and does differently. It happens.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 15:07

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 15:04

Info in the thread changed and I obviously changed my tone along with it... rtft...

drip feeding etc