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Would this be an absolute NO for you? Golliwog encounter.

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skatermom · 20/01/2024 16:13

We've recently moved to a new village. Really lovely place, really nice people. We needed a Violin teacher for my DS who is in secondary school. His teacher lives too far away now and we were looking for somewhere that wasn't too far away.

How lucky we were to find a classical string instrument teacher a walking distance from home. I spoke to him over the phone and he sounded lovely. He is in his 50s and teaches lots of children in the area. He also plays the guitar and sings in the choir of the local church. We went to see him in his cottage-like home for an assessment and he took us into his small music room. It was gorgeous! Lovely instruments around, beautiful decor, very old style but really nice. One side had little figurines of angels and fairies, one wall had really old photos of what looked like old relatives from before the 1970s, he had a frame of old miniature trains etc.

I sat on the rocking chair he offered while he talked loads around planning the ABRSM grades and the different classical violinists. I'm not very musical but listened on. Then it was time for my DS to play so I sat back and listened while looking around. I looked towards my left and there was a cabinet with glass dolls and about 25 miniature Golliwog / Gollywog figurines. Now, I should probably say here that I'm black.

I froze from shock and just looked on and pretended not to see them. I'd never seen one in person before! When we finished, we made some follow up arrangements and left with a promise to get back in touch.

The man was so very lovely, seemed so kind and welcoming and encouraging that I don't know whether to be offended!

AIBU to ignore it and just keep taking DS for the lessons? He's the only one at the level we need in a 3mile radius.
What would you do in my shoes?

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Bigearringsbigsmile · 20/01/2024 16:14

I would ignore it and do the lessons

madeinmanc · 20/01/2024 16:16

You know the answer deep down 👎 😔

StopTheBusINeedAWeeWeeAWeeWeeBagOChips · 20/01/2024 16:16

I wouldn't tolerate it for myself, and I wouldn't tolerate my kid seeing it as normal either. I would probably email or message him and explain why. If he is truly lovely then he will remove them.

FuckingHellAdele · 20/01/2024 16:17

Well if he's only in his fifties, he knows what golliwogs are and what they represent.

Make your decision on that basis.

DisforDarkChocolate · 20/01/2024 16:18

Unless you feel up to saying something I'd look for somewhere else.

Itslegitimatesalvage · 20/01/2024 16:18

Someone his age will have them because they were a children’s toy when he was a child. He’ll have probably collected them decades ago, they’ll hold childhood memories and that’s all he sees when he looks at them. Obviously now they have a very different connotation, and they are offensive and really not something to be cherished but some people still do. I’m not going to sit here and tell you that you’re wrong to feel how you feel because you’re not wrong. But I don’t think I’d look at this as the racist violin teacher but rather the nostalgic and rather politically tone death violin teacher. I wouldn’t let it stand in the way.

Floralnomad · 20/01/2024 16:19

I’d have to say something

Abitlosttoday · 20/01/2024 16:19

StopTheBusINeedAWeeWeeAWeeWeeBagOChips · 20/01/2024 16:16

I wouldn't tolerate it for myself, and I wouldn't tolerate my kid seeing it as normal either. I would probably email or message him and explain why. If he is truly lovely then he will remove them.

Agreed. I couldn't tolerate this. He must be incredibly naieve or a racist. It's not OK. Even if those toys have huge sentimental value to him, they shouldn't be on display in 2024.

Itslegitimatesalvage · 20/01/2024 16:19

FuckingHellAdele · 20/01/2024 16:17

Well if he's only in his fifties, he knows what golliwogs are and what they represent.

Make your decision on that basis.

My mum’s siblings are all in their 50s. They had them as toys when they were children. And still have them up the loft. It depends on the parents they had and the sorts of toys they were given etc.

madeinmanc · 20/01/2024 16:19

Someone his age will have them because they were a children’s toy when he was a child.

He's "only" in his fifties so I don't think the dates are right.

duckpancakes · 20/01/2024 16:20

This is a personal decision.

Personally I wouldn't. I also wouldn't want any more money being paid to him so he can fuel his racist habits.

FuckingHellAdele · 20/01/2024 16:20

Itslegitimatesalvage · 20/01/2024 16:18

Someone his age will have them because they were a children’s toy when he was a child. He’ll have probably collected them decades ago, they’ll hold childhood memories and that’s all he sees when he looks at them. Obviously now they have a very different connotation, and they are offensive and really not something to be cherished but some people still do. I’m not going to sit here and tell you that you’re wrong to feel how you feel because you’re not wrong. But I don’t think I’d look at this as the racist violin teacher but rather the nostalgic and rather politically tone death violin teacher. I wouldn’t let it stand in the way.

He's in his FIFTIES.

Do you think he was brought up before the war or something?

duckpancakes · 20/01/2024 16:21

I'd also mention something to the pastor of the local church

sorrynotathome · 20/01/2024 16:21

Golliwogs were a children's toy when I was a child but I have moved with the times. I would not tolerate it. I would stop the lessons and perhaps explain why (gently).

He may love his collection due to childhood memories but to put them on display to strangers coming into his house is a whole new level of tone deaf.

DewHopper · 20/01/2024 16:21

madeinmanc · 20/01/2024 16:19

Someone his age will have them because they were a children’s toy when he was a child.

He's "only" in his fifties so I don't think the dates are right.

I am in my 50s and remember these as toys very well. Also little enamel brooches you could send away for - Robinson's jam I think?

madeinmanc · 20/01/2024 16:21

I'm just wondering - some kind of grotesque inheritance? Did he perhaps inherit the family home?

Itslegitimatesalvage · 20/01/2024 16:21

@FuckingHellAdele

Yeah… and people his age had them as toys when they were children. Not every single person but they were still being sold as children’s toys to that age group.

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Floralnomad · 20/01/2024 16:21

@Itslegitimatesalvage I’m in my last 50s and remember Gollywogs very well but I wouldn’t give one house room even if it did hold memories .

DewHopper · 20/01/2024 16:22

I agree Floral

AgeGapBbe · 20/01/2024 16:22

Errrr what?! @duckpancakes

sorrynotathome · 20/01/2024 16:22

FuckingHellAdele · 20/01/2024 16:20

He's in his FIFTIES.

Do you think he was brought up before the war or something?

I'm in my fifties but they were around when I was a child. In those days people kept toys to hand down to children/grandchildren.

Frederica145 · 20/01/2024 16:22

Collecting gollywogs doesn't make him racist. They used to be collectors items, and he must have bought them years ago as they're not readily available today. (There may be some on eBay, I haven't looked).
You would have able to tell from his manner, if he was racist. I always can. I would do the lessons.

Beebeesmith · 20/01/2024 16:22

We collected the Robinsons jam badges when we were little. I had no idea of the connotations, I didn't think they were meant to be any sort of person, just a cartoon character.

I obviously would not have them now.

He should know better. If you feel you can, you could tell him they upset you? He'll either be horrified or won't care and you could decide based on that? I can understand if you'd rather not deal with it though, you really shouldn't have to.

madeinmanc · 20/01/2024 16:22

DewHopper · 20/01/2024 16:21

I am in my 50s and remember these as toys very well. Also little enamel brooches you could send away for - Robinson's jam I think?

Oh, I didn't realise, sorry. I'm in my forties and they were already taboo by my childhood which goes to show how quickly change can happen.

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