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DP doesn't want DS to move in with us

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elder12 · 09/11/2023 22:12

Hi everyone I'm new here, I could do with some advice

My son is 20, I had him young. His dad was older and eventually turned out to be emotionally abusive, he had an affair and left me, still seeing DS until he was about 12. Shortly after contact stopped, I met my now DP. He got along great with DS and he became a father figure.

5 years ago, I gave birth to DS2. DS went off the rails and got involved in the wrong crowd, started being violent. I tried everything, showing him love, punishments, counselling but he wasn't having any of it. I felt like a bad mum and maybe I should've done more.

At 17 I kicked him out because the behaviour had gotten really bad, he refused to do anything I asked and was still being violent. He went to his dad and I didn't hear from him much. He occasionally messaged but not often and I didn't know if I wanted a relationship with him. In the time between then and early last year, he had been arrested for assault and was taking drugs - I didn't know any of this at the time.

He messaged me in March last year saying happy birthday and wanted to meet up, our relationship was very strained but we met up maybe once a month.

We started seeing each other more from May this year, we met up a couple of times a month. He wanted to see DS so I took him along a few times and he was good with him. DP didn't want me inviting him over here and I respected that but now I don't know what to do as he was staying with his (now ex) girlfriend and her family and saving for a place of their own. They've now split up and DS is staying with a friend that he works with. Which can't be long term.

I want to ask him to move in with us until he's ready to move out and get his own place, DP says no due to his behaviour but I believe he's changed. I'm also pregnant and if he did move in baby wouldn't have his own room, but he will be in with us for probably the first year anyway.

OP posts:
Geppili · 09/11/2023 22:17

Maybe your son's difficulties are related to the abuse you suffered. Don't cut him out. He is as much your child as your younger one. Talk to him.

ITookABathWithAinsleyHarriott · 09/11/2023 22:22

You cannot move your adult son into your home with your DP without him agreeing to it… and I can see why he wouldn’t want that.

Is your son clean now? Is there another way you could help him e.g. financially help him?

You said he was saving up with his gf, does he still have these savings? If so, why does he need to live with you? If not, where has all the money gone?

HamBone · 09/11/2023 22:23

i can see why this is a difficult decision as presumably your DP has witnessed/experienced your son’s violence and is worried that he could harm DS2 and pregnant you if he loses his temper.

Also, do you know whether he’s stopped taking drugs? That’s another major issue.

I completely understand that you want to give him a home (I would too) but you do need to protect your younger children.

StarDolphins · 09/11/2023 22:24

I feel sorry for your son. Saw abuse, his dad left, he got a new father figure, then a new baby, then he got chucked out & you weren’t sure if you wanted a relationship with him. He’s still young & it’s a lot of trauma. It must’ve been extremely hard for you too to deal with the way he was.

Sounds like he’s grown up a bit & reflected. I would let me move back in without doubt.

ITookABathWithAinsleyHarriott · 09/11/2023 22:26

Sounds like he’s grown up a bit & reflected. I would let me move back in without doubt

This isn’t solely her decision to make unfortunately

Orangeslush · 09/11/2023 22:27

Yabvu if you think it’s acceptable to move an adult, violent addict back into your home where you have a younger child and a new baby on the way.

Once an addict always an addict. Hopefully he’s changed but chances are it’ll end in tears and unless you want the cycle to repeat itself you need to keep him as far away from your other children as possible.

Support him as best you can but at arms length.

AnneLovesGilbert · 09/11/2023 22:30

You can’t invite him to move in if DP says no, your second child and this baby have two equal parents and he’s trying to keep them safe from a previously violent junkie.

Your eldest son didn’t ask for a difficult upbringing but your other two don’t owe their half brother anything and they have a right to be and feel safe in their home, as does DP.

You can’t make unilateral decisions when you’re in a committed relationship with shared children.

Chickychoccyegg · 09/11/2023 22:30

Thats quite a heartless attitude @Orangeslush

AnneLovesGilbert · 09/11/2023 22:30

ITookABathWithAinsleyHarriott · 09/11/2023 22:26

Sounds like he’s grown up a bit & reflected. I would let me move back in without doubt

This isn’t solely her decision to make unfortunately

Fortunately

MiddleagedBeachbum · 09/11/2023 22:32

I think your DP needs to spend time with him and their relationship and trust re build, and then it should be fine surely?

ITookABathWithAinsleyHarriott · 09/11/2023 22:33

@AnneLovesGilbert I agree. I’m with DP on this one, no way would I let a violent addict adult stepchild move back into my home with my very young children.

Orangeslush · 09/11/2023 22:34

@Chickychoccyegg it might sound heartless but it’s realistic. The priority here is keeping the younger children safe. Thankfully the partner has more sense.

Dillane · 09/11/2023 22:34

Geppili · 09/11/2023 22:17

Maybe your son's difficulties are related to the abuse you suffered. Don't cut him out. He is as much your child as your younger one. Talk to him.

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Blueeyedmale · 09/11/2023 22:35

Orangeslush · 09/11/2023 22:27

Yabvu if you think it’s acceptable to move an adult, violent addict back into your home where you have a younger child and a new baby on the way.

Once an addict always an addict. Hopefully he’s changed but chances are it’ll end in tears and unless you want the cycle to repeat itself you need to keep him as far away from your other children as possible.

Support him as best you can but at arms length.

That's quite an heartless comment to make and it's not true being an ex addict myself and being a support worker, working with addicts people do and can change your comment is completely wrong

elder12 · 09/11/2023 22:42

I believe DS has changed, he no longer takes drugs and hasn't for over a year. He does have many saved but not much, as he had to buy the food for himself and his now ex, and give money towards the bills. I don't think he'll have enough for rent or even a deposit.

I worry if I don't help him, he'll end up going back to his old ways

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andweallsingalong · 09/11/2023 22:43

It doesn't even sound like he has asked to move back this is likely you feeling guilty and wanting one big happy family, which is potentially realistic.

If he's happy living with his work mate, leave him there. It sounds like he is doing well at the moment and that the responsibility could be good for him.

From a distance rebuilding relationships with you DC and DP could be easier especially with the added chaos of a new baby in the mix.

andweallsingalong · 09/11/2023 22:44

Sorry, meant to say potentially unrealistic

ITookABathWithAinsleyHarriott · 09/11/2023 22:46

@elder12 can you not help him financially?
You can’t just move him in without your DP being in agreement… is it likely your DP will agree if he gets to know him again and be convinced he’s changed?

If I’m honest I’d be reluctant to want my adult stepkids moving into my home regardless of how lovely they are. It’s a big ask of the non-biological parent and you can’t ignore his feelings on this either, it’s his home as much as yours

CatamaranViper · 09/11/2023 22:56

I'd be offering to help him get back on his own two feet. A small flat or room in a house share. Maintain the relationship as it is currently and be there for him. In time your DP may come around and have a relationship with him too, but right now you can't force it.

Itsnotchristmasyet · 09/11/2023 22:57

I would choose my child over my DP without a second thought but it is DPs home too and no one should be moving in without each other’s permission.

Could you ask DP to compromise and say it’s just until he gets back on his feet and the second there is any inappropriate behaviour he will be gone straight away.

He was 17 and grew up in an abusive home, then his mum had another baby.
He’s had a lot to deal with and he’s (hopefully) much more mature than he was when he was a teen.

Orangeslush · 09/11/2023 23:01

@Blueeyedmale it’s not wrong. Many addicts do relapse and if you’re in a position like this guy is now where he’s doing okay, introducing him back into a family home with a step dad and young children could cause jealousy / resentment issues, toxicity and trigger a relapse.

IMO it’s completely irresponsible for a mother of a young child and a brand new baby to welcome a man with a history of violence and addiction into the family home.

Chukkachick · 09/11/2023 23:02

It’s easy for me to say, not being emotionally involved, but oh my word DO NOT let him move back in with you. What happens if a month turns into 6? Or the bad behaviour reignites?

if your ex was emotionally abusive then you’re probably an empath, ie a bit of a pushover (no offence, I am too). This is such a recipe for trouble.

I have 2 under 2 and my DSD (25) lives with us. She’s better now but it has been a nightmare at times, she’s messy and can be very stroppy/emotional. Trust me- the last thing you need with young kids is emotional turmoil in your own HOME.

it is NOT worth it, there is no upside for you, support him at arms length.

jeez I hardly ever comment on threads but reading your post has actually made me anxious on your behalf

CatamaranViper · 09/11/2023 23:05

Itsnotchristmasyet · 09/11/2023 22:57

I would choose my child over my DP without a second thought but it is DPs home too and no one should be moving in without each other’s permission.

Could you ask DP to compromise and say it’s just until he gets back on his feet and the second there is any inappropriate behaviour he will be gone straight away.

He was 17 and grew up in an abusive home, then his mum had another baby.
He’s had a lot to deal with and he’s (hopefully) much more mature than he was when he was a teen.

It's not about choosing a child over a partner, it's about protecting the other children as well.
He was violent. Since OP doesn't say much about this, we don't know who he was violent with. Was it her? If so, she's currently pregnant and absolutely should be protecting her baby. It's just not worth the risk. That one instant of "inappropriate behaviour" could have fatal consequences for someone.

Blueeyedmale · 09/11/2023 23:11

Orangeslush · 09/11/2023 23:01

@Blueeyedmale it’s not wrong. Many addicts do relapse and if you’re in a position like this guy is now where he’s doing okay, introducing him back into a family home with a step dad and young children could cause jealousy / resentment issues, toxicity and trigger a relapse.

IMO it’s completely irresponsible for a mother of a young child and a brand new baby to welcome a man with a history of violence and addiction into the family home.

Where I was quoting you as wrong is you said once an addict always an addict you are right some do replase but there are many success stories people go on to have happy lives away from drugs, gain employment lead healthy lifestyle, even get married and have children not every addict is the same and many do change

Namerequired · 09/11/2023 23:11

Why go straight from seeing him fortnightly to moving him in. If he’s safe with his friend take it slowly. Start inviting him round. Get a relationship built again between him and your dp and build on his relationship with you and his brother. See him more often. Then maybe invite him for a night or a weekend. It doesn’t need to be all or nothing.

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