Sky’s LGBTQ+ staff attack ‘well-funded’ bigots’ in trans row

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Sky’s LGBTQ+ staff group has attacked “extraordinarily well-funded bigots” who campaign to “exclude trans people from sports” in a video broadcast to the media giant’s employees via its in-house website.

Full aThe message, which did not call out any specific campaigning individuals by name, was released on October 11 by the LGBTQ+ @ Sky group as it marked National Coming Out Day.

“LGBTQ+ people are being targeted,” said the co-chair of the staff group, who works as a senior legal counsel for the broadcaster. “Our rights, our identities and our existence are being debated and attacked. And our trans friends and family are facing an especially relentless level of hostility.

“Extraordinarily well-funded bigots are campaigning to exclude trans people from sports, from organisations and from shared spaces — and they are succeeding.”

The in-house broadcast, made in the same month that Sky employees were challenged to go an entire working day without using any pronouns — including I, we, you and me — struck some as odd.

Tanya de Grunwald, the host of HR sector podcast This Isn’t Working who has been critical of corporate trans policies, said: “Sky have missed the ‘vibe shift’ — they seem so be stuck in 2019. While most large corporations have quietly shelved their support for gender ideology over the last two years, Sky is one of a handful that I have seen doubling down.”

Full article https://www.thetimes.com/business/companies-markets/article/sky-lgbtq-trans-gender-pronouns-wxggzkt0x

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In recent years, many large companies have dialled down their messaging around LGBTQ+ issues. This has partly been prompted by legal challenges made under Donald Trump’s US government against diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) schemes, and also by the UK’s Supreme Court last year ruling that the legal definition of a woman should be based on biological sex.

But it appears that Sky, which is owned by US media conglomerate Comcast, has gone against the tide — although the LGBTQ+ group does not set any corporate policies.

Last week, shortly after the National Coming Out Day missive, staff received a series of messages to mark International Pronouns Day. In one video, staff were challenged “to try working a whole day without using [pronouns] in emails and messages”.

Sky employees were told in advance of this day that the company had revamped its Microsoft 365 systems to allow staff to add pronouns to their in-house online profiles.

“Adding your pronouns is easy and entirely optional, and for those who choose to do so, it’s a simple way to help create a more inclusive workplace where we can all feel recognised and respected,” the email said. “Correctly using someone’s pronouns is simple — and conversations can be easier if you don’t need to assume what they are.”

The email provided staff with a list of pronouns they should expect to encounter, which included “Ne/Nim/Nir”, “Xe/Xem”, “Ze/Zir” and “Per/Pers”.

A company spokesperson said: “Sky is committed to creating an inclusive workplace. Our employee networks provide opportunities for colleagues to share experiences and personal perspectives, rather than express formal company positions.”

Does anyone care what Sky thinks? They’ll be lucky to be still going this time next year. This nonsense is in its dying throes, they’re only shouting into the void now (except in Australia)

I follow their links on my news feed quite often. I'll be resisting doing that until they confirm that their being committed to creating an inclusive workplace does not include supporting males in women's sport, clubs or spaces.

I think you need a reality check. You might not care about Sky, but sadly it is one of the main news outlets in the UK.

And quite honestly even if they had only 10% of viewer why the hell aren't you concerned that employees and employers are behaving like this?

The notion that it is all going to go away is cloud cuckoo land as it is quite likely that during the period of the Labour Government the EA could be changed to become trans inclusive.

And lets face it with the number of TRAs now dominating threads on FWR for all you know during that time this forum with be pro trans and everyone will be giving their pronouns.

Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.

Sky’s LGBTQ+ staff attack ‘well-funded’ bigots’ in trans row

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Our employee networks provide opportunities for colleagues to share experiences and personal perspectives, rather than express formal company positions

Like giving a small child the spoon to hold while you’re getting on with the cooking.

I hope their gender realist employees sue for unlawful harassment

This is quite funny because Comcast (Sky's owners) donated $7.5m to Trump's gold plated ballroom.

Are the TRA's in the room with you right now? 👀

Sky have missed the ‘vibe shift’ — they seem so be stuck in 2019

2019 was when people were blindly letting men and boys into women’s and girls’ sport without any consideration of the consequences.

2026 is well past the time of the ‘vibe shift’ of doing something about it, given the number of sporting organisations who have taken decisive action to protect the female category in previous years.

The ‘vibe shift’ in 2026 is more like ‘how the hell are you still clinging to the notion that letting boys and men into the female category is in any way okay?’ while at the same time seeing through the melodramatic claim of a ban - just compete in the right category.

National Coming Out Day
International Pronouns Day

Is there any sign that meteor that's going to wipe out civilisation will be hitting us any time soon? not that there'll be much civilisation left to wipe out, it seems to be on its backside already.

Ol mate is of the delusional opinion that censorship is enough to kill an idea & save civilisation as we know it from finding out men & women are psychologically interchangeable. Let her have her toys!

And that made perfect sense as you typed it.

Unlikely.

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That’s you, that is.

I'm not the one here incapable of understanding basic concepts.

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Good for them. While women are still fighting for equality of access in sport, struggling against an entrenched culture of sexism and abuse, bigots are trying to shift the focus to trans people.

Even though trans women are banned from basically all sports.

Even though no trans woman has ever won an Olympic or any other significant medal in all the time they were allowed to compete.

And now, trans women can't even play grassroots football. When that ban came in, there were about 12 in the entire country. Most places had none.

All trans people - and increasingly, any cis woman who doesn't meet sexist standards of femininity - are under constant attack when they do absolutely anything. Walk. Run. Appear in a photo. Go on TV. Hold down any job. Post online.

Transphobic people appear to think they have carte blanche to attack trans people simply for existing. Of course that has to be fought.

Feminism is not about dictating who gets to call herself a woman. It's about equality, justice, and an end to rape culture.

Pretending that trans people aren't affected by misogyny is a wicked lie. Anyone who steps outside gender norms and stereotypes attracts cis male anger like a magnet.

And of course, terfs tell these men that trans people are misogynists themselves - simply for existing. So they feel entitled, and encouraged, to attack them.

There are threads on here full of people furious that trans people exist - someone seen in public, doing their job, seen at a school. It's abject, utterly pointless and needs to end.

As for pronouns...very, very few people you'll ever meet will use unfamiliar pronouns. Learning a new thing shouldn't be beyond most people, let alone called a "lie" and raged against. Tolerance, respect and educating yourself are not misogyny. It is deeply anti-feminist to claim otherwise.

Yeah, I know. It's the upside-down.

Parents who protect their trans kids and refuse to reject them, are called child abusers here.

Gay people who claim solidarity with trans, are called homophobes.

And women who object to attacks on minorities are called misogynists.

I know.

Transwomen aren’t banned from sports. Transwomen can play grassroots football, either on men’s or mixed teams.

Good news, hey?

I think the push back on changing the EA2010 to be trans friendly, i.e. sex means legal sex not biological sex would be huge. And transmen, who may support change, may not realise that they are stripping themselves of maternity rights (some do have babies!) if sex means legal sex.
I don't think Burnham has the guts for such a fight. He is leaving his EU mess of potage until after another election, too.
The tide has turned. It's going out slowly, but going out and I can't see it coming back in because ordinary people are clocking that transwomen are men - which was not something laboured in all the polling and discussion of women's spaces until after the SC judgement in 2025. Until then significant numbers of people thought that 'transwoman' meant a woman who was trans i.e. a transman. Now they don't.

Thank you for your contribution. We both know that it is the exact opposite of reality but please feel free to continue to post it.

Parents should always protect their children if possible. I’ve read of parents of girls - girls who have their bodies stared at by creepy men and who sometimes wear skirts - letting those girl go into men- only spaces because those girls say they are boys. Shocking, isn’t it?

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