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Anyone want to hazard a guess on what trans plus means??

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Taytoface · Today 07:49

Services and support planned for Oxford's transgender community - BBC News https://share.google/QIIsN1jFX0KR859sx

Usual what about the menz guff. But as well as being trans non binary (make it make sense) we now have trans plus. Is that plus sized, or extra transy? I can't keep up.

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Chersfrozenface · Today 07:56

I went looking so you don't have to.

According to "The Trans Language Primer", a USian site, it means:
"A way of referring not only to the trans community, but also trans-adjacent people and others who might benefit from some of the same resources as the trans community. The term is less about who specifically is included and more about who shares experiences."

No, I'm none the wiser either.

Hoardasurass · Today 08:01

Nonbinary along with fetishes such as furries, plushies and MAPs according to some reports I've seen which is rather disturbing if true

TheKeatingFive · Today 08:20

Oh great, let’s definitely let them into women’s changing rooms 🙄

Pumpkinsaregrowingnicely · Today 08:21

I'd like it identified as A Croc Of Shit
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AIiswatchingyou · Today 08:24

So, 'we're rapidly losing support amongst gay people, so we welcome anyone else in the fringes of society who will bolster our numbers'

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · Today 08:53

"Trans+" has been kicking around for several months at least. I thought it was a shortcut for the alphabetti soup, but it's becoming more distinct now.

The following seems to be Stonewall's approach to the term, or at least Simon Blake's (from 26 September 2025, which I posted on one of the Stonewall threads):

[Going where angels fear to tread
https://www.stonewall.org.uk/news/going-where-angels-fear-to-tread]:

"...every day we are driving for social justice for all lesbian, gay, bi, trans+ and queer people." [first time I have seen lesbians and gays separated from the "trans+." At least we now know what Simon thinks "trans+" means, and it isn't "lesbian" or "gay" in the way most of us mean it]

FlatCatYellowMat · Today 09:18

AIiswatchingyou · Today 08:24

So, 'we're rapidly losing support amongst gay people, so we welcome anyone else in the fringes of society who will bolster our numbers'

This is bang on the money.

Lets include anyone who dresses a bit differently and wants head-pats for it.

Cailleach1 · Today 09:19

Eunuch is in there somewhere too. The Ottoman Empire, and Chinese court were ahead of their time. Saudi Arabia comes to mind too. They were big on the old enslavement of people. Unfortunately, I think there was quite a high death rate of the poor victims when they chopped off genitals.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · Today 09:22

Anyone who 'identifies' as speshul or wants extra privileges and access, I think. Which naturally WILL include the ones @Hoardasurass mentioned, as well as the spicy straights etc.

ApplebyArrows · Today 09:26

Sounds like a way to get the oppression points of being trans without actually having to deal with all the bother of any sort of actual transition.

teawamutu · Today 09:27

FlatCatYellowMat · Today 09:18

This is bang on the money.

Lets include anyone who dresses a bit differently and wants head-pats for it.

This. Whether they want to be lumped in or not (see, many people with DSDs).

MyThreeWords · Today 09:35

I think it means anyone who has ever introspected in relation to their experience of having a sexed body and the gender conformity and/or non-conformity they do/did/will/may exhibit in relation to that.

There is probably just one woman or man, somewhere in Basingstoke perhaps, who is not trans plus.

BiologicalRobot · Today 09:37

...every day we are driving for social justice for all lesbian, gay, bi, trans+ and queer people."

I also thought trans+ was the alphebetti soup which included queer as well as LGB. I still haven't worked out what queer means as I "translate" it as the old fashioned meaning/slur. What does it actually mean now?

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 09:39

I read Trans+ as including all the people whose special identity is supporting trans people and transing their DC. The trans parent (parent of a trans child) needs their identity validating, too.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 09:40

BiologicalRobot · Today 09:37

...every day we are driving for social justice for all lesbian, gay, bi, trans+ and queer people."

I also thought trans+ was the alphebetti soup which included queer as well as LGB. I still haven't worked out what queer means as I "translate" it as the old fashioned meaning/slur. What does it actually mean now?

Everyone except Barbie. Obviously not Ken.

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · Today 09:43

ApplebyArrows · Today 09:26

Sounds like a way to get the oppression points of being trans without actually having to deal with all the bother of any sort of actual transition.

oppression points
good way of phrasing it!

MyThreeWords · Today 09:43

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 09:40

Everyone except Barbie. Obviously not Ken.

Isn't Ken a eunuch, though?

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · Today 09:45

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 09:39

I read Trans+ as including all the people whose special identity is supporting trans people and transing their DC. The trans parent (parent of a trans child) needs their identity validating, too.

Well, that sums up the Rapid Onset Social Media Generation: everyone must be validated!

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 09:52

MyThreeWords · Today 09:43

Isn't Ken a eunuch, though?

Yes, I was unclear. Ken is obviously part of the alphabet+, it includes everyone except Barbie. I’d forgotten his eunuch status though, was thinking more metrosexual 😅

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 10:29

social justice
There not even bothering to hide the fact that they're attempting to socially engineer society, and turn everything into a dogs dinner.

inkymoose · Today 10:30

MyThreeWords · Today 09:43

Isn't Ken a eunuch, though?

I think he is, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't identify as one

Seagulldancing · Today 10:33

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 09:39

I read Trans+ as including all the people whose special identity is supporting trans people and transing their DC. The trans parent (parent of a trans child) needs their identity validating, too.

I have a relative in Oxford who this very much applies to.

MarieDeGournay · Today 10:43

'Trans plus?' I can give you a concrete example.

In Ireland, a group called TENI, Transgender Equality Network Ireland, has a disproportionate amount of influence - when the GRA2015 was being whooshed! through parliament on the coat-tails of the successful Marriage Equality referendum, TENI were deferred to as 'the experts' on the topic by not only politicians, but also medical high-ups. They could present reports or appear at meetings and basically state their demands, and everyone said Oh OK then...

TENI produced a report on transgender students in post-primary education in Ireland, along with the School of Education at the University of Limerick, based on interviews with trans students.

Given that there is only a tiny number of transgender people in the population, the number of transgender students in post-primary education in Ireland must be so small as to make academic research into such a small sample of limited value, other than anecdotal .
And indeed, the impressive-looking report with its methodology and terminology and list of conclusions was based on interview with all of... nineteen young people.
So they managed to find nineteen young trans people in post primary education to interview?

Well no, and this is where the 'trans plus' came in handy - they also included in their study young people who were 'gender diverse' , which they defined as having a 'gender expression different from the cultural norms associated with their birth genders.' This covers a multitude of young people who are not trans, but who reject gender stereotypes - in fact, it could include young gender-critical feminists!

Being 'gender diverse' and being 'transgender' are two very different things, just as LGB are very different from T, but the forced teaming of categories was useful to get up to the number of nineteen subjects.

'Trans plus' can mean anything that's expedient it seems.

The Post-primary School Experiences of Transgender and Gender Diverse Youth in Ireland (2020) Publications – TENI

Shortshriftandlethal · Today 10:44

'Trans' plus ADHD?

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