50 Scottish police officers suspended for crimes against women

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqe9l0r105l8o

sometimes it does feel that the entire police force is one mass misogynistic movement

What are women meant to do when the very people who are supposed to protect them are rotten themselves?

"One massive misogynistic movement" is spot on. It is a systemic problem. How do we change it? It seems the 'good uns' are the exception not the rule and they are powerless to speak up in the culture that defends it.

And it feels like a tiny, tiny speck of progress that they actually noticed. Ugh.

I suppose that's good going for people think employees can be 'exited' rather than removed or dismissed.

This is awful but sadly not surprising. I'm sick to death of the misogynistic culture of various organisations in Scotland, from the government to the NHS and the police. I just don't trust any of them anymore.

50!!!!!!!

Yep. It attracts them. Power corrupts, and large organisations cover for abusive men.

1 in 10 Met officers were put under investigation for sexual offences after Sarah Everard was murdered. Many investigated elsewhere.

Tbf I have met some good, dedicated officers - the young man who tried so gently to convince my friend she was living in a domestic violence situation stands out. Others who helped me get my brother away from an abuser.

But until it's recognised that violent men actively choose to become officers to gain power over women, and need to be vetted properly, nothing's even remotely going to change. Abusers cannot be identified by a characteristic or their appearance, they are in every sector of society and anyone can be a victim of abuse.

Easy to see how Gender Ideology took such a hold in such a misogynistic organisation.

It's only now during this year there has been a change in the vetting regime. So for the first time, if an officer fails their vetting, they can be exited from policing," she said.
"So that is a very recent change, and a welcome change from my point of view. Up until that point there were no opportunities to exit people from the organisation

Words fail me.

😮there was no way to get rid of police officers who failed vetting? Bloody hell

Only 50?

It could be me, but if someone fails vetting and can still be employed as a PC, what's the ACTUAL point of a vetting process in the first place?

Words fail me

Indeed. Or rather they don't, but they' re not suitable even for MN.

Ah I’ve just made a thread about this on the other board. I’ll get it taken down.

Where did you get the 1 in 10 met police investigated for sexual offences from?

I remember when I first read that recruits weren't even dbs checked. I was absolutely horrified.

Just the ones who got caught too.
I'm not surprised.

They have something like 16,000 officers in Scotland and 6,000 of them haven't been vetted yet. So if that's from the vetting, that would be 50 out of 10,000. Which is 1 in every 2 hundred. And while I think that's pretty appalling, I'm not that surprised. Apparently there have been a handful of other violations that have come up, but 70% are VAWG. The only reason for VAWG to be so dominant is if such crimes were routinely dismissed as unimportant in the past.

I think we need an investigations into WHO was previously vetting and making those decisions. Until we hold people accountable for dismissing these concerns, there will continue to be a culture where such concerns are minimised unless there is a spotlight on them.

The news.

Oh give over.

Trans people don't trust the police precisely because of institutional misogyny.

'Gender ideology' doesn't exist. Trans individuals do. Trans people existing is not a plot against women, and trans people don't hate cis women.

Crowbarring trans people into a discussion that has nothing to do with them achieved though I guess.

Do you have a link? I hadn't seen anything remotely close to that number.