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Yet another rapist

34 replies

EntirelyUnnecessary · Yesterday 17:08

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c60e32dydp9wo

James Groves "who also goes by the name of April"

What a brave victim and good to see accurate reporting at least

A mugshot of James Groves who has long blonde hair

Bristol sex offender jailed for 'calculated' abuse of girl

The victim, who was praised for her "exceptional bravery", said she lost her childhood due to the abuse.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c60e32dydp9wo

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Minasama · Yesterday 22:58

Chersfrozenface · Yesterday 17:58

Avon and Somerset Police's communications on this case avoid pronouns altogether and use "Groves" throughout.

I'd love to know how he was referred to in court.

Good for them. He’s quite clearly a “he” and doesn’t deserve the respect of being granted any choice in how officialdom refers to him. It would clearly be deeply inappropriate to refer to him as “she”
given the nature of the case.

Helleofabore · Yesterday 23:41

I hope that girl can start to work through what this vile man did to her.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Today 01:25

solerolover · Yesterday 18:57

Exactly this, it's very obvious what @TransParentlyAnnoyed is trying to do here.

I've made it really clear how I feel, as a victim myself.

Leave survivors alone. They don't need strangers dredging the details of their ordeals or weaponising their trauma.

There is a huge difference between being horrified at this news, and gleefully seizing on it as 'evidence' that trans women are all deviants.

Really telling that when women try to talk about how cis men have destroyed our lives, we get shouted down and told 'not all men'.

The only time we're ever allowed to discuss male aggression is in a transphobic context. Otherwise, we get rape and death threats.

ElenOfTheWays · Today 05:04

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Yesterday 18:46

I just want to add: everyone who continually reposts names and images of rapists, risks retraumatising their victims.

At least asterisk out their names or anonymise them. Stop reposting details of what was done, and their photos. It is deeply harmful to survivors.

Hmmm. This POS was all over my FB feed today. I don't think one post on mumsnet will make a lot of difference really. Why are you so keen to stop women on here specifically from talking about this?
If it's because we correctly identify him as a man understand that you are wasting your efforts here
The comments from both men and women under the Crimewatch post I saw earlier that consistently called this man a woman and she/her were pretty much all pointing out that this is a man and the correct pronouns are he and him.
People are waking up and getting angry about this shit. It's not just on here anymore. It's everywhere.
You're just pissing into the wind at this point.

Rightsraptor · Today 05:32

James Groves's name, image and crimes need to be spread far and wide so people see what we're talking about when we hear about 'transwomen' being put on women's hospital wards, in women's prisons and all the rest.

Rollingpinofdoom · Today 05:39

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Today 01:25

I've made it really clear how I feel, as a victim myself.

Leave survivors alone. They don't need strangers dredging the details of their ordeals or weaponising their trauma.

There is a huge difference between being horrified at this news, and gleefully seizing on it as 'evidence' that trans women are all deviants.

Really telling that when women try to talk about how cis men have destroyed our lives, we get shouted down and told 'not all men'.

The only time we're ever allowed to discuss male aggression is in a transphobic context. Otherwise, we get rape and death threats.

Huh? You’ve had rape and death threats from whom? Just for saying all men are dangerous, not just the men in dresses? wow! The thing is though you say “cis” MRN are destroying lives. How do you know? I mean, do you know the gender identity of every man? I thought we couldn’t tell if people were trans. How do you know they are not masc presenting TIM?

ElenOfTheWays · Today 05:42

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Today 01:25

I've made it really clear how I feel, as a victim myself.

Leave survivors alone. They don't need strangers dredging the details of their ordeals or weaponising their trauma.

There is a huge difference between being horrified at this news, and gleefully seizing on it as 'evidence' that trans women are all deviants.

Really telling that when women try to talk about how cis men have destroyed our lives, we get shouted down and told 'not all men'.

The only time we're ever allowed to discuss male aggression is in a transphobic context. Otherwise, we get rape and death threats.

Who are you talking about/to here?

Because it's definitely not the women on this board who have issued death threats to rape survivors (no matter who raped them), or told them it's not all men.

No one here has ever said that all trans identified men are rapists nor is there any "glee" at the prospect.

I think you are confused about where you are posting

Rollingpinofdoom · Today 05:51

ElenOfTheWays · Today 05:42

Who are you talking about/to here?

Because it's definitely not the women on this board who have issued death threats to rape survivors (no matter who raped them), or told them it's not all men.

No one here has ever said that all trans identified men are rapists nor is there any "glee" at the prospect.

I think you are confused about where you are posting

Especially the line about getting rape threats for pointing out all men are dangerous…. That’s more a reddit/bluesky thing no?

borntobequiet · Today 06:09

TransParentlyAnnoyed · Today 01:25

I've made it really clear how I feel, as a victim myself.

Leave survivors alone. They don't need strangers dredging the details of their ordeals or weaponising their trauma.

There is a huge difference between being horrified at this news, and gleefully seizing on it as 'evidence' that trans women are all deviants.

Really telling that when women try to talk about how cis men have destroyed our lives, we get shouted down and told 'not all men'.

The only time we're ever allowed to discuss male aggression is in a transphobic context. Otherwise, we get rape and death threats.

There is a huge difference between being horrified at this news, and gleefully seizing on it as 'evidence' that trans women are all deviants.

No one is saying that, other than you.

Otherwise, we get rape and death threats.

Really? I refer you to the splintery rolling pin post I made earlier. Who made that threat, pray? Where is the evidence of such threats to “your side”?

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