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Liberal Democrats are voting to scrap the EHRC guidance

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MyPearlViper · Yesterday 13:24

Once again Ed Davey shows he is no friend to women

From his Radio 4 interview this morning:

'The Supreme Court created something that we didn't expect.

'We've been working out how to make sure it's implemented properly and we've been waiting for this guidance – it's taken a long time.

'And we think, talking to businesses, they don't think it's clear enough or helpful enough. So we're responding to what other people are saying.'

Words can't express how angry this makes me. He has no idea how women are feeling, has he?

Please, any Lib Dem women still in the party, do what you can to overturn the vote this afternoon

Liberal Democrats are voting to scrap the EHRC guidance
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LizzieSiddal · Yesterday 15:15

I heard him this morning saying the guidance was “too complex”. Well it’s only complex if you don’t like it.

I must say though, I’d prefer a left wing coalition to a right wing one. Farage and his friends scare me and my mixed race family to death.

iwishitwouldstartraining · Yesterday 15:25

LizzieSiddal · Yesterday 15:15

I heard him this morning saying the guidance was “too complex”. Well it’s only complex if you don’t like it.

I must say though, I’d prefer a left wing coalition to a right wing one. Farage and his friends scare me and my mixed race family to death.

And Farage has also promised to get rid of the Equality Act, so goodbye to legislation that has protected women from unlawful discrimination since 1975.

It's a men's rights pincer movement.

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 15:32

I agree, Farage is scary. I can't agree that the right wing is worse than the left wing at this point, though. I'm scared by all of the fuckers.

fromorbit · Yesterday 15:37

iwishitwouldstartraining · Yesterday 15:25

And Farage has also promised to get rid of the Equality Act, so goodbye to legislation that has protected women from unlawful discrimination since 1975.

It's a men's rights pincer movement.

The issue is if a big portion of left - Greens and Lib Dems both agree that biology is not real -- then Farage gets to fight on easy mode.

It is a wedge issue. It is so crazy it even pulls apart parties that believe it in internal fights.

oldwhyno · Yesterday 15:38

He's ridiculous. I just don't see what the point of the Lib Dem party is at all.

It's just the "close your eyes and try not to vote for one thing or another" Party

Arran2024 · Yesterday 15:44

iwishitwouldstartraining · Yesterday 14:53

People have been voting Libdem in South West London (Ed Davey and Sarah Olney's patch) for decades. They appeal to people who don't quite want to vote Labour, but think the Conservatives aren't very nice.

Tbf Sarah Olney only became an mp in 2016 - she won the by election caused by Zac Goldsmith standing down to run for Conservative mayor of London and she has held it ever since, with an ever increasing majority. But why?

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 15:47

fromorbit · Yesterday 15:39

NB the vote in the LIb Dem conference is at around 5.10 today. Expect things to get nasty as the Trans side usually tries to silence anyone standing up for women. I put a link to watch it live in the other thread on this:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5580674-lib-dem-conference-big-vote-on-supporting-womens-rights-tomorrow?page=2&reply=154888709

Thanks. I will tune in and cross fingers, toes, and anything else that I can find that can be crossed.

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 15:49

Currently talking on VAWG.

murasaki · Yesterday 16:04

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 15:49

Currently talking on VAWG.

How dare they, when they refuse to acknowledge what a woman is.

iwishitwouldstartraining · Yesterday 16:10

Arran2024 · Yesterday 15:44

Tbf Sarah Olney only became an mp in 2016 - she won the by election caused by Zac Goldsmith standing down to run for Conservative mayor of London and she has held it ever since, with an ever increasing majority. But why?

The only other party that has a chance of winning in her constituency is the Conservatives, and they would have lost a huge chunk of the local vote after Brexit, and more recently because eventually everyone hated the Conservatives.

The constituency was Lib Dem from 1997 until 2010 (when Cameron managed to convince Richmond types that the Conservatives were no longer nasty) and Richmond Council is 100% Lib Dem.

Before 1997 much of the constituency was Richmond and Barnes, and that was Conservative through the Thatcher years, but with only a small majority over the Liberals.

Many locals will like the LibDems' consistent opposition to the third runway at Heathrow, even when they were in government.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 16:40

"The Supreme Court created something that we didn't expect"

The SC didn't create anything, it gave us clarity on an existing law, which is what it's supposed to do, why oh why did you not expect them to do that ED.

Muppet. 😤

Arran2024 · Yesterday 17:05

iwishitwouldstartraining · Yesterday 16:10

The only other party that has a chance of winning in her constituency is the Conservatives, and they would have lost a huge chunk of the local vote after Brexit, and more recently because eventually everyone hated the Conservatives.

The constituency was Lib Dem from 1997 until 2010 (when Cameron managed to convince Richmond types that the Conservatives were no longer nasty) and Richmond Council is 100% Lib Dem.

Before 1997 much of the constituency was Richmond and Barnes, and that was Conservative through the Thatcher years, but with only a small majority over the Liberals.

Many locals will like the LibDems' consistent opposition to the third runway at Heathrow, even when they were in government.

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/2101967711689412776?s=20

I feel another email to Sarah coming on. She wants to stand as Lib Dem candidate for London Mayor and of course there is a lot of competition from the Greens, so I suspect that explains her going out to bat on this issue as several years ago she seemed quietly supportive of the gender critical position.

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https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/2101967711689412776?s=20

Wishesandhorses · Yesterday 21:35

'Restore 'trans rights''

Oh ffs you silly man.

He MEANS 'destroy women and gay rights in law' and then CREATE rights that crossdressing men never had in the first place. Essentially male supremacism.

He is barking. Absolutely bloody barking. Although if Labour and the Lib Dems form some frantic anti-democracy coalition to try and cling on to power when Labour is voted out, this kind of raving lunacy might end up getting to debate stage.

EdithStourton · Yesterday 21:48

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 15:32

I agree, Farage is scary. I can't agree that the right wing is worse than the left wing at this point, though. I'm scared by all of the fuckers.

Ditto.
I used to feel that the LDs were a safe, middle-of-the-road option.
Currently I can't vote Green, Labour, LD or Reform. They're all just different colours of bonkers, with Reform and the Greens even more bonkers than the other two.

I'd be breaking the habit of a lifetime if I voted Tory.

I have never been as demoralised by the state of politics in the UK as I am now, and I thought it was bad a few years ago.

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