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Lib Dem conference ‘descends into culture wars’ with trans vote
Party wrong to debate pro-trans proposals that will ‘be weaponised against us’, say campaigners

Published 20 September 2026 6:45pm BST
The Liberal Democrats have been accused of “taking a sledgehammer to women’s rights” by debating proposals for more “inclusive” rules on single-sex spaces.
The party will vote on Monday on a proposal to scrap new guidance banning transgender women, who are born male, from female toilets and changing rooms at its annual conference.
The plans are set out in an emergency motion selected by Lib Dem members, which will also force the party to take a firm stance on whether “trans women are women”.
Liberal Voice for Women, a Lib Dem group campaigning for sex-based rights, warned the policy would be pushed through by a conference “stacked with activists” and force the party “back into the culture wars”.
The backlash threatens to embroil the Lib Dem conference in a transgender row for a second year running, despite Sir Ed Davey insisting on Saturday that he led “the most united party in British politics”.
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He started off by saying 'trans and gnc people', and is now just using 'trans'.

'Simply don't conform to someone else's idea of femininity'

Hate crime - 3800 hate crimes in E&W 24/25

'Equality is not a finite resource'
'manufactured culture war'

applause

'Protect single sex service where necessary'

Where?

Calls for 'a code that is workable and consequences to be monitored'

'liberalism means allowing people to live lives, defending minorities, trans people shd not have to plan around where they might be welcome'

it's toilets, isn't it

That was mercifully brief.

Bernice Roust now. A loud booming voice, a bloke with longish hair.

Ah, and a Mermaids T shirt. He is trans.

'fascism is rising, surely there are more pressing issues'

'But no. '

'A tsoonami of propaganda' 'from the orange one across the pond'

using 'the heritage foundation' and the 'society for evidence based medecine'

Careful, mate, that's actionable.

'they are racist, they are fascist'

Again, that's clear defamation.

'Labour have rolled over. We are libdems and we care'

Bernice is done. A bit shouty at the end.

Mark Johnston speaking against.

'hands up if you want Farage to be the next PM'
'hand up if you think there's a chance'
'hand up if you think 72 million pounds donated recently increases chance of Farage being PM'

'Every time Ed Davey speaks recently, he says our core purpose is to stop Farage. On that goal, he's right and has my support. If Farage wins, the outlook is bleak. He will burn the hosue down. No human rights laws at all. No equality laws of any kind. The end of the postwar liberal settlement'

Now talking about Trump, and how he used Kamala Harris' support for 'trans' issues.

Saying Libdems must be realistic. Supreme court is unassailable. Parliament will never cancel sex as a category. Trans claims have run out of road. Realism has prevailed in the public mind.

'Are we serious about govt? Are we going back to prepare for govt or going back to our bedrooms to prepare for irrelevance'

some whoops and applause

Rebecca Jones in support.

Another long haired man, I assume trans.

'Take you into my shoes for a while'

'jumping through hoops, medical intervention'

'bathroom ban - extreme'

talking very fast, can't quite keep up.

'tired of being a culture war'
'want to live in peace and dignity'

How? You can only protect single sex services if sex is a verifiable fact, not an idea in someone's head.

'debate on our very lives and identities' 'reject the politics of hate'

He's quite persuasive, for dimwits.

They really liked that last chap. Lots of loud applause.

Rory Clark speaking for the motion.

Bernice seems to have a YouTube channel if you want to put a face to a name:

Brain anatomy.

'Neural systems align with gender identity rather than birth assigned sex'
'trans adolescent brain pattern activitity'
'cortical thickness ... brain structure aligns with gender identity'
'when scientific evidence shows ...'

sorry, my brain's melted.

I can't keep up. This is a bald man with earrings arguing he feels like a woman so should be allowed into the loos.

Jude Hasted. Woman speaking for the motion.

Emergency

Bloke wants to use women's toilets

Stop everything now

What is this pseudoscience bollocks this speaker is spouting?

Reckons she's been perceived as a man. Is it because you have short hair, Jude. You are very clearly a woman.

He quoted various papers from endocrinology journals etc.