How many Pelicots?

[dick27]

This is the third one now I've heard of/read about. Pelicot was NOT an outlier. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/husband-12-others-charged-string-33463076

At least 8 new victims / abuse rings identified by UK police

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/abuse-gisele-pelicot-national-crime-agency-b3007770.html

1. a new acronym we all need to learn - organised drug-facilitated sexual assault (ODFSA).
2. and to think mumsnet gets criticism for being an online forum where women find each other and organise?!
3. "“If something doesn’t feel right, you do not need proof or a clear memory to seek help,” she added. “Police and support services will make sure you are listened to, taken seriously and given the care you need.” I very much doubt it. Sadly, I think a lot of women will get laughed out of the police station.

I think the rise of unmoderated social media, easy access to anonymous chat forums, plus Pornhub, has normalised a lot of this behaviour. They know they are likely to get away with it; if they get caught, they will not be charged, and even if they are charged and sentenced, they might still get little or no jail time.

I wish we could bring back social shame. For example, broadcasting to everyone on their contact book their crime, after they had been convicted.

perversion cluster, both perverts become more perverts and also they gather together and 2 are more than 2x the danger. 64M men viewed the website in a month. 64 MILLION views.
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2026/03/world/expose-rape-assault-online-vis-intl/index.html

If a woman posted on MN saying she had no proof but felt like something was wrong, what would she be told?

I don't know?

"Trust your gut" seems quite usual.

Oh yes this is more than just Gisele Pelicot.

Along with that rapist from Rochdale and all those other paedophiles.

Can't men think of a better way to use their time? This is what they chose to do?

Trust your gut, ginger, cos in most circumstances men are at fault.

It's statistically true.

I think MN could be taking this forward as a valuable campaign.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jul/03/hundreds-join-support-group-survivors-drug-facilitated-rape

https://endeyecheck.org/#take-action

An opportunity to get involved

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/14/uk-man-admits-32-sexual-offences-against-allegedly-drugged-or-sleeping-partner

I thought I'd add this article that I noticed in BBC news

BBC documentary found spycams secretly filming women online - BBC News https://share.google/wwbLyZ9THfQPQAvEE

I am adding this but with a caution as I dont want to inadvertently jeopardise the trial.

US media is reporting that the trial is now underway. At least assuming this is the same case, but hate to think there could be another drug facilitate mass rape.

I know from the early reports they were anxious to preserve the anonymity of the wife.

Report on CNN.

Sorry!

Have now re-read article and in fact the first day of the trial has been delayed, so should start tomorrow.

So maybe no issue about reporting.

Just adding this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74el40wpw9o

Scatchard, originally from Scotland, was previously jailed in 1986 after drugging and attempting to kidnap a woman he knew. He ran her over with his car, and when police searched it, they reported finding a body bag inside.

At least he's dead now.

Dame Nicole Jacobs, the Domestic Abuse Commissioner for England and Wales, says his case demonstrates how drug-facilitated sexual abuse has been "hidden in plain sight for many years".

Bill Cosby was drugging women his whole career.

Thanks for sharing that @IcakethereforeIam Utterly horrific. On what basis are these men risk assessed as being ok to be released? It seems absolutely incredible in this day and age that someone like that could be allowed out to re-offend, especially with all the technology available to monitor people. He had a second phone that he used to access dating sites ... 1) Why did nobody check for this and more importantly 2) If someone is so dangerous that them accessing dating sites is going to be a problem, surely they aren't safe to be a part of society?

@GingerBeverage Just another example of this stuff not being taken seriously.

Filing this under ‘disappointed but not surprised’. A frightening percentage of men are utterly vile, I know it’s ‘not all men’, but the fact that there’s any is unacceptable.

Gosh, those poor women.

He had three earlier convictions relating to abuse of women, then was given four life sentences in 2000, yet somehow he was released after only 13 years .

I suspect it's just the tip of the iceberg. My godson was a victim of the Manchester rapist - and only found out when the police contacted him. He fortunately didn't have to go to trial but there were hundreds more victims who weren't traced.

I just read this horrific case in Austria. That poor woman. Heartbreaking. I wish terrible things on the men who did this to her.

https://mol.im/a/16116843

We really are just meat and some orifices to these men.

I really do despair of men in general. I reckon the majority of men, yours, mine, anybody's if given the opportunity with anonymity guaranteed would do the same. The perpetrators that are known about are, after all just ordinary men with lives, lifestyles, jobs and in many cases partners and families. Just ordinary.

And if we are asked who are the most dangerous people in the world at the moment, well..... the first names to come to mind are all leaders of various countries, and all men, of course.

Her poor, poor daughter.

"Her husband, who was intoxicated, initially told first responders his wife had an accident during 'rough sex', news outlet 20 Minuten reports.
Police did not initially suspect the 51-year-old husband."

So, rough sex ending in the woman's death would have been fine then?