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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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SwirlyGates · 12/11/2025 20:55

spannasaurus · 11/11/2025 19:31

https://x.com/listen2tish/status/1988286400828240218

I've just come across this clip on x of Tish questioning a politician about women's safety. She's very good.

Oh he's annoying isn't he. "We also know that we have trans people, both men and women, who are men and women." What does that even mean?

Then she tells them all about being harassed, and about the guy breaking his wife's jaw, and he says, "I also know that trans women are brutalized in this country." Because he can't actually address her points in any sensible way.

I think some of the subtitles are wrong by the way - I started to type more about "sister women", but I think that's not what he actually said. He's mumbling somewhat - maybe deliberately...

SwirlyGates · 12/11/2025 21:00

SwirlyGates · 12/11/2025 20:55

Oh he's annoying isn't he. "We also know that we have trans people, both men and women, who are men and women." What does that even mean?

Then she tells them all about being harassed, and about the guy breaking his wife's jaw, and he says, "I also know that trans women are brutalized in this country." Because he can't actually address her points in any sensible way.

I think some of the subtitles are wrong by the way - I started to type more about "sister women", but I think that's not what he actually said. He's mumbling somewhat - maybe deliberately...

I just read the DM article - where the subtitles have "women and sister women", the DM has "women and cisgender women are brutalized in this country". Is he actually saying "women and cisgender women" rather than, say, "women and transwomen"? Are trans women now the default women? Confused

Supporterofwomensrights · 14/11/2025 18:42

Tish is doing a great job being straightforward about this. Typical weasel politician answer.

RovingPublicEnquiry · 14/11/2025 19:47

SwirlyGates · 12/11/2025 21:00

I just read the DM article - where the subtitles have "women and sister women", the DM has "women and cisgender women are brutalized in this country". Is he actually saying "women and cisgender women" rather than, say, "women and transwomen"? Are trans women now the default women? Confused

Yes, he said "women and cisgender women." A troll on another thread here said the same thing recently. I fumed when I saw that, but thought, oh well, it's just a troll on Mumsnet. But now I see a politician saying the same thing?!! Livid. 😡It must be their new agreed upon terminology. I bet they think saying women and transwomen is transphobic because it implies transwomen aren't women. So I guess the answer is to completely shit on and discount half the human race. As it usually is. 😡

Heggettypeg · 14/11/2025 20:09

spannasaurus · 11/11/2025 19:31

https://x.com/listen2tish/status/1988286400828240218

I've just come across this clip on x of Tish questioning a politician about women's safety. She's very good.

Poor Tish.Just watching all that was infuriating. Talk about wilfully clueless.

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