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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Darlington Nurses" vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust Tribunal Thread

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ThreeWordHarpy · 07/10/2025 19:20

Five nurses working at Darlington Memorial Hospital have filed a legal case suing their employer, an NHS trust, for sexual harassment and sex discrimination. The nurses object to sharing the women’s changing facilities with a male colleague, “Rose”, who:

  • identifies as female
  • has not undergone any physical or hormonal transition and has full male genitalia
  • has cited inclusivity policies
  • is backed by the trust’s HR department
  • has been granted access to a single-sex changing room for women.

The NHS trust’s HR department dismissed the nurses’ concerns, stating they should “broaden their mindset” and “be educated”. More details can be found at Sex Matters

The hearing is due to start on October 20th and is scheduled to last 3 weeks. To view the hearing online email: [email protected] [[email protected]] requesting remote access to the case of 2501192/2024 Hutchinson and others Vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust, starting 20th October. Also include your full name and your role in the hearing (eg member of the public or observer). Note, it is likely you will need the same full name and email address to log into the hearing, and the name will be visible to other observers.

The hearing will be live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets. An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets have more background to this case on their substack, including links to their coverage of the earlier hearings.

In earlier hearings reported at http://archive.today/nh5v9, the claimants were supported by the Christian Legal Centre and represented by Pavel Stroilov (solicitor) and Bruno Quentaville (barrister). The respondents were represented by Simon Cheetham KC. We do not know yet if the same representation will be in place for the October hearing

Background information from Christian Concern who are supporting the nurses via the CLC.

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IDareSay · 22/10/2025 11:14

nauticant · 22/10/2025 11:13

Did you even try downloading the Pexip Infinity Connect app?

Yes to iPad and phone 😩

nauticant · 22/10/2025 11:14

Ahh, it does seem you've gone above and beyond. Do you have access to a laptop or a desktop?

CriticalCondition · 22/10/2025 11:17

IDareSay · 22/10/2025 11:12

I have had no luck gaining access using every method at my disposal (and I am an old hand at watching tribunals remotely!) but doesn't sound like I'm missing anything yet.

Meanwhile, Naomi is being magnificent in Kelly v Leonardo 💥

She is on fire! It's a glorious listen.

IDareSay · 22/10/2025 11:17

nauticant · 22/10/2025 11:14

Ahh, it does seem you've gone above and beyond. Do you have access to a laptop or a desktop?

Yes I'm watching Naomi on the laptop. I'll use the laptop tomorrow for Darlington (or later today when Kelly v Leonardo finishes).
It's not a huge problem and I'm sure it will be fixed by using the laptop.

NapoleonsToe · 22/10/2025 11:23

I've been in via chrome on my phone (when there was no sound) so not sure what's gone wrong now. On Pipex, which option do you choose:
Video
Audio
Presentation only
Meeting room

Really don't want to share my video accidentally - I'm currently flat out on a bed in the living room following surgery for a broken leg and no-one needs to see that on their video Grin

ickky · 22/10/2025 11:25

IDareSay · 22/10/2025 11:17

Yes I'm watching Naomi on the laptop. I'll use the laptop tomorrow for Darlington (or later today when Kelly v Leonardo finishes).
It's not a huge problem and I'm sure it will be fixed by using the laptop.

You could just open another window on your laptop and join that way, that's what I am doing. I just have the volume turned low on the Darlington screen.

IDareSay · 22/10/2025 11:30

ickky · 22/10/2025 11:25

You could just open another window on your laptop and join that way, that's what I am doing. I just have the volume turned low on the Darlington screen.

Thanks @ickky I did try that earlier with no luck but now it works! Flowers

NebulousSupportPostcard · 22/10/2025 11:32

We're back. Sound from NC is great but we are still competing with a keyboard clattering typist!

nauticant · 22/10/2025 11:32

NC is appearing in two ETs simultaneously. That's amazing!

DrudgeJedd · 22/10/2025 11:35

MyrtleLion · 22/10/2025 10:52

From TT

We have just been removed back to the waiting room.

I wonder if the Respondent's legal team have clapped eyes on Rose for the first time this morning and are rethinking their strategy

Bannedontherun · 22/10/2025 11:36

DrudgeJedd · 22/10/2025 11:35

I wonder if the Respondent's legal team have clapped eyes on Rose for the first time this morning and are rethinking their strategy

😂

ThreeWordHarpy · 22/10/2025 11:37

ItsCoolForCats · 22/10/2025 11:36

Amazing photo from Iain Masterton on X of people supporting the nurses outside the court

https://x.com/iain_masterton/status/1980914246377677209?t=jMxE4tpbLhB0B4f2PHfpzg&s=19

Not a mask or balaclava in sight

Is that KJK I spy in the middle?

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NebulousSupportPostcard · 22/10/2025 11:39

wrong thread sorry

YouCantProveIt · 22/10/2025 11:39

I mean they'll be breaking for lunch next. Two hours of WFTCHTJ with no comms is a bit much.

MyrtleLion · 22/10/2025 11:42

From TT

We remain in the remote waiting room and apologise for the continuing delay.
We have no further information at this stage.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 22/10/2025 11:44

ThreeWordHarpy · 22/10/2025 11:37

Is that KJK I spy in the middle?

It's either KJK or a lookalike.😀 I can also see Steve "Edge of the Matrix" on the right with his "Transwomen Are Men/There is no such thing as a trans child" sandwich boards.

https://www.youtube.com/@edgeofthematrix

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/@edgeofthematrix

EsmeWeatherwaxHatpin · 22/10/2025 11:45

I have just been turfed out altogether and now I just have a black screen. I might give up for the day!

GCITC · 22/10/2025 11:48

I've been kicked out and it's now saying I have an invalid pin

AKnitter · 22/10/2025 11:49

I was removed, too, but I rejoined and am WFTCHTJ

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 22/10/2025 11:50

ThreeWordHarpy · 22/10/2025 11:37

Is that KJK I spy in the middle?

It is, I recognise her shoes in another picture.

https://x.com/iain_masterton/status/1980907905756045726/photo/1

ThreeWordHarpy · 22/10/2025 11:51

AFAIK the system times out after one hour listening to WFTCTJ, and boots you out. Nothing personal.

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ILikeDungs · 22/10/2025 11:51

I was kicked out and got back in. Surely the hearing should give the observers some explanation or timescale. Just manners.

ItsCoolForCats · 22/10/2025 11:52

Surprisingly good article in the Independent that lays out the circumstances pretty clearly

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nurses-nhs-jk-rowling-county-durham-one-b2849732.html

Although it says there are 7 nurses. I thought 8 nurses are brining the claim and one is staying anonymous. Is that right?

Ellerby · 22/10/2025 11:53

EsmeWeatherwaxHatpin · 22/10/2025 11:45

I have just been turfed out altogether and now I just have a black screen. I might give up for the day!

Terfed out 😉

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