The Bluestocking - the one where the nights start to draw in

[Boiledbeetle]

Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5401672-the-autumn-bluestocking-mist-mellow-fruitfulness-and-hot-chocolate

Settles down in the comfy chair by the fire.

I’m on Chrome, on my iPad, and the colours are awful.

Grumble grumble grumble.

'Join the Fudge Club' is somehow not making it any more appetising.

Others without your restraint may have written about the resemblance to the trans flag eg at 20:34 on this thread.

I’ve not posted a screenshot because that doesn’t show the tiles, you need to click on the photo to see it all.

I’ve liked the posts where it’s been mentioned that the default colours used to be the Suffragette ones.

(MN doesn’t seem to like me quoting @lcakethereforeIam ’s post)

This reminds me very strongly of what happened when Ravelry (reportedly 11 million users) decided to implement major changes on its site without proper consultation. They made some modifications/ offered alternatives: they meant I can be on there for short periods but some people are still unable to use the site.

The MN colours are muted for me. Is that because I’m a premium subscriber? Conspiracy theorists would like to know.

Those look like the changed colours, Glad - the ones we freeloaders are currently disliking.

I changed to 'green', which is meh! rather than the magenta which is actively horrible.

They are pale colours, though, lovely android. Other people are mentioning how bright the new colours are.

They manage to be intense & drab & revolting all at the same time. It's quite an achievement. And then there's the bright blue.

It feels harder on the eyes than it used to be. Someone has a screenshot from this morning & it shows the difference. I'll see if I can find it.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/5412919-a-few-updates-to-mumsnet?page=22

See:
Kreepture · Yesterday 22:25

I think I understand. The original poster’s and my threads are on a pale background, but there are also banners which say Original Poster and My Posts, and those and the voting sentences are now in strong colours.

All the colours are new.

Grrrrrrrr

After last night's Mumsnet induced migraine, I have put on a pair of sunglasses and ensured the settings for everything are set to so dark I can hardly see what's on a page

Then I click on Mumsnet..

I did actually report Lizzie from Mumsnet own post last night (once I'd located the moved report button) and got a response

Me: Whinge incoming I'm reporting you to you as I want it noted The migraine sufferers amongst us CAN'T USE THE SITE. This update is unusable. I'm off to take a migraine tablet. Not cool Mumsnet. Not cool! Whinge over

MNHQ:Hello

Thanks so much for sharing this with us. We've passed your feedback on to the team who are managing the thread and monitoring user feedback.
We're sorry to hear it's causing issues - that's not what we want, and we'll be updating on the thread itself in terms of any fixes and changes.

Who knows if they'll listen, but surely pissing off a large portion of their users, and making them physically ill is not a good business plan.

At this rate I'll be asking for my subscription money back.

💙

I'm on my laptop in Chrome and the colours have definitely changed for me, as has the brightness. Colours are now washed-out green and grey or revolting salmon-pink. As for the brightness, my display setting is already down at 26% because of my cataract and general poor sight. If I turn it down any further I'll be in permanent gloom all over the internet.

apparently they are taking our feedback on board.

Hopefully we will see at least an option to return to the old colours for posts, but the blue is so bright.

In other news, I'm really upset because a 15 year old girl in my family now goes by he/him and has changed her name.

I don't know this girl very well but my DM is likely to want to see a lot of her. I'm going to be far too busy to attend any gatherings for the foreseeable future.

My DH's 15 year old niece was non-binary for a while and is autistic and now self-harming. I have a 20(??) year old niece who says she's a boy and changed her name. It's obviously a social contagion. Likely both girls in my family are also autistic. I don't see the older one for other reasons.

I just don't want to have to call someone by a different name or refer to her as he/him when it's obvious she's a girl.

It's easy to correctly sex someone when they're not in your family or your presence, so this is hard; particularly because I don't want her going down the testosterone route and doing permanent damage to her body.

Gin and wine, lots of it please, bar-gerbil.

The walrus is taking me to the river for early dinner and beers. Then we are celebrating with prosecco as my DSD has actually started her new part time job, which she got in late June.

That sounds so difficult, @MyrtleLion - I don’t know how I’d feel or cope if someone in my family did this. Dinner and beer sound like a good choice - as is the best Bluestocking gin.

Reminder that if anyone casually asks you could you do a nature walk for the local primary school you CAN say no.

Otoh, it is entertaining to think that about 40 local households (depending on how many siblings there were there) are going to be told the French name for dandelions.

Knackered now, and I have to go to a thing after dinner so I can't even have wine.

Oh @MyrtleLion that's hard! My elder UK-based DGD (who is actually DGC4) is autistic, though high functioning and very intelligent. She's almost 9 now, has been heavily into all things witchy and Halloweeny and black for several years. My DD is a psychotherapist and although isn't totally sold on gender ideology isn't really GC either, and is slightly towards the "be kind" mode - honestly isn't interested in looking any further into it (I tried, but she grey rocks me when I do so I stopped trying). I really worry about DGD hitting puberty. Luckily she goes to a very small somewhat rural C of E school, where I doubt very much she will be exposed to the genderqueer stuff, and her dad has no time for gender ideology, so fingers crossed. I honestly don't know how I'd react if she did what your niece is doing.

sorry these youngsters are caught up in this destructive nonsense.
massive congratulations to your DSD though, hope her job goes well.

It was a situation like that in the extended family that made me care about what's happening rather than just feeling distanced bafflement and disapproval.

Impossible to say anything.

Name has been changed, Autistic, went to a 'good' school once notorious for anorexia, now for gender. Very clever and very stupid.

I feel your pain, Dean, I took a lot of students (roughly twice as many as yours) on a whole day visit today. Not just me, but I was the one organising it, and I'm knackered too.

This made me think of this poem:

The Crannóg
Kathleen McPhilemy

On the pretext of a school project
I dragged them round the coast, from ruin to ruin.
Their voices, shrill in excitement or protest
blown back to me, are Cockney.
They are godless, without history.

We walked to Fair Head, to the cliff's edge,
Sheep-paths through the heather seemed nature's and timeless.
But the green island in the blue lake with the rowing-boat
is artificial, built for defence.
This earth has been fought over.

They leap from yellow marker to marker,
shriek as feet squelch in peaty bogholes.
But when we meet the stream on the bare rock
it is they who kneel and cup their hands
to drink the clear water.

Myrtle, I'm sorry you have that difficult situation going on in your family, but good news about DSD starting her job, I hope it goes well for her

Me Taz’s daughter is non binary and wants to transition. Her mother is encouraging this.

she’s autistic with an eating disorder.

doesn’t go to school and mother allows this too. And she’s ending up with no social friends and all she gets is from the internet.

im so worried. But.

my tongue is bit almost through.

my own older dd is now in her mid 20s and wanted to be a boy when she was about 7. That stuck til she was about 15. She’s also autistic. Had arfid at the time. I dread to think where we would be if I hadn’t stood hard against her. And it WAS hard.

She and her sister are both now gender critical and the younger in particular is pretty vocal about it. And dear god but I’m proud of her. It takes a lot of guts at 24 to stand up and be counted and I’m not sure that I would have had the strength to do it at her age and in the climate as it is now.

that turned into a rant. Sorry!

*Mr Taz