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NHS Policy Audit - working party - thread #2

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KnottyAuty · 25/04/2025 15:32

This is a thread about “keeping the receipts” on NHS Policies prior to the Supreme Court ruling on 16th April 2025.

Our working theory is that there were no single sex spaces for NHS Staff or Patients in the entire country before that date, having all been removed by stealth. We are aiming to prove this by auditing websites and policies for all the UK trusts and using the results to raise public awareness. As well as recording what has happened historically, the information will form a baseline so we can check which Trusts comply or defy the judgement in due course.

We are working around the country region by region. If you fancy getting involved in a bit of grassroots feminism then please do join in to help!? Each trust takes about an hour to research and you can upload online without giving any personal details away. Comment below and we can give you the link to an online survey - it changes for each region.

Thanks soooo much to all the vipers who have helped so far and @ Twoloons for doing a great job with the thread wrangling!

Here are the press articles we’ve managed to generate so far:

Scotland:
25th March: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/dTUhY
26th March: Scottish Daily Express
https://archive.is/kaLCB
26th March: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/iSD9m

London:
21st April: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/awGuz
23rd April: The Telegraph (in conjunction with another thread by NHS mumsnetters)
https://archive.is/1DO8d

Original thread #1 here:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5291237-nhs-policy-audit-working-party?page=1

NHS Policy Audit - working party | Mumsnet

Following on from Thread #23 of the Peggie v NHS Employment Tribunal. Anyone who wants to help with survey/audit of paperwork against the Equality Act...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5291237-nhs-policy-audit-working-party?page=1

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TwoLoonsAndASprout · 08/06/2025 11:07

WithSilverBells · 08/06/2025 11:05

@TwoLoonsAndASprout Def don't want to give you and Knotty any more work😬

I'm going to 'print to PDF' and paste into the final part of the jotform any unsettling children-related stuff, for future reference - which I think is what you are suggesting. I suspect the 'mental health' trusts are going to have the worst examples.

That sounds perfect, thank you! If you remember, you can also flag on here which trusts you spot these things on.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 08/06/2025 11:08

FarriersGirl · 08/06/2025 07:40

Morning @KnottyAuty and @TwoLoonsAndASprout I will sort out the list of trusts for the South East later today. Happy to do some thread wrangling on this for you!

Meant to say thank you for this!

SeaStoat · 08/06/2025 11:44

I agree. Continuing with both staff and patients gives the baseline for scrutiny for each trust. You'll also be able to crunch some numbers eg XX% of trusts FOId had unlawful policies (or is all trusts that have policies have unlawful policies?). XX% threaten to use a disciplinary process with for female staff who reject gender ideology and object to a man on a women's ward and/or in their changing rooms. XX% of trusts have a policy that ignore the Cass review and supports social transition, without parental knowledge.

Here's a gift article on Policy Exchange’s report, the fifth “Biology Matters Compendium”. It compiles examples of organisations refusing to acknowledge the legal force of the court’s judgment. www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/8bdff775227345a0

FarriersGirl · 08/06/2025 15:52

Good afternoon Vipers. I am giving a bit of extra help with the next region which is the South East. A full list of the trusts is below. There will be a new jotform from Knotty for this region which I will send out by DM to anyone volunteering.

Any newbees to the team are welcome. The instructions on the jotform are quite easy to follow but I will provide a bit of extra support if asked.

If there is a particular trust you want to do then let me know, otherwise I will allocate on request.

Acute trusts in the South East region

Ashford and St Peter’s Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust
Dartford and Gravesham NHS Trust
East Kent Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
East Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust
Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust
Hampshire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Isle of Wight NHS Trust
Maidstone and Tunbridge Wells NHS Trust
Medway NHS Foundation Trust
Oxford University Hospitals NHS Trust
Portsmouth Hospitals University NHS Trust
Queen Victoria Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
Royal Berkshire Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
Royal Surrey County Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
Surrey and Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust
University Hospital Southampton NHS Foundation Trust
University Hospitals Sussex NHS Foundation Trust

Community and mental health trusts in the South East region

Berkshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust
Central Surrey Health
First Community Health and Care
Kent Community Health NHS Foundation Trust
Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
Medway Community Healthcare
Oxford Health NHS Foundation Trust
Solent NHS Trust
Southern Health NHS Foundation Trust
Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
Sussex Community NHS Foundation Trust
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust

Ambulance trusts in the South East region

South East Coast Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust
South Central Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust

teawamutu · 08/06/2025 15:56

Afternoon - I'll bid for these three but will take any three you suggest if easier:
Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
Sussex Community NHS Foundation Trust
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/06/2025 16:00

I’ve got a bit more time now and happy to help though am total newbie!

I’ll take dartford & gravesham nhs trust

KnottyAuty · 08/06/2025 16:29

teawamutu · 08/06/2025 15:56

Afternoon - I'll bid for these three but will take any three you suggest if easier:
Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
Sussex Community NHS Foundation Trust
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust

Sussex hospitals will be an eyeful I'm sure!

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KnottyAuty · 08/06/2025 16:32

@FarriersGirl I have dm'd the new jotform link for the South East to @teawamutu and @Theeyeballsinthesky

Thanks all!

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Cantunseeit · 08/06/2025 16:43

Hi @FarriersGirl I can pick up a couple. Happy to be allocated

KnottyAuty · 08/06/2025 16:47

Well well here is a gift link to the Telegraph - a GP practice in sussex prescribing to kids... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/8814b48ac92cfba3

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YellowRoom · 08/06/2025 16:51

Pl may I start with Hampshire Hospitals?

YellowRoom · 08/06/2025 16:54

YellowRoom · 02/06/2025 16:18

Ooh - just found this FSU letter re 2023 Transitioning at Work and Gender Diversity Policy:
https://freespeechunion.org/letter-to-the-ceo-of-south-tyneside-and-sunderland-nhs-foundation-trusts-transitioning-at-work-and-gender-diversity-policy/#:~:text=Summary,compensation%20in%20the%20Employment%20Tribunal.
Apols - I haven't included this in the submission. I've now saved it.
''In the course of our work we come across some pretty egregious equity, diversity and inclusion policies, but the South Tyneside and Sunderland NHS Foundation Trust’s ‘Transitioning at Work and Gender Diversity Policy’ is the worst yet. This NHS Trust is effectively telling female Muslim employees that if they refuse to use – or express any concerns about using – toilets or showers with trans-identifying biological males they will face disciplinary action. That is a clear breach of the Equality Act and any employee sacked by this Trust for failing to comply with the more draconian aspects of this policy, whether a person of faith or someone with gender critical beliefs, would have an open-and-shut case for compensation in the Employment Tribunal.''

Edited

The FSU letter isn't on a Jotform. I can add to a new form and submit? I haven't got the actual policy however - there are quite a few quotes from it in the letter but I don't have the original.

Blackmetallic · 08/06/2025 17:07

Hello @FarriersGirl I would be happy to take Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
Thank you

FarriersGirl · 08/06/2025 17:17

teawamutu · 08/06/2025 15:56

Afternoon - I'll bid for these three but will take any three you suggest if easier:
Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
Sussex Community NHS Foundation Trust
Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust

They are all yours

FarriersGirl · 08/06/2025 17:20

Blackmetallic · 08/06/2025 17:07

Hello @FarriersGirl I would be happy to take Kent and Medway NHS and Social Care Partnership Trust
Thank you

Its yours thanks. Jot form to follow

FarriersGirl · 08/06/2025 17:21

YellowRoom · 08/06/2025 16:51

Pl may I start with Hampshire Hospitals?

Its yours - jot form to follow

FarriersGirl · 08/06/2025 17:23

Cantunseeit · 08/06/2025 16:43

Hi @FarriersGirl I can pick up a couple. Happy to be allocated

Thanks can I allocate Ashford and St Peters NHS Trust plus Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust. Jot form to follow

KnottyAuty · 08/06/2025 17:50

Thanks everyone!

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WithSilverBells · 08/06/2025 20:26

Berkshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust for me please

NeedMoreTinfoil · 08/06/2025 21:50

I'll take East Kent Hospitals please

socialdilemmawhattodo · 08/06/2025 22:03

Maidstone and Tun Wells for me please.

KnottyAuty · 08/06/2025 22:17

socialdilemmawhattodo · 08/06/2025 22:03

Maidstone and Tun Wells for me please.

Thanks so much! Have you done one before @socialdilemmawhattodo ?

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socialdilemmawhattodo · 08/06/2025 22:21

KnottyAuty · 08/06/2025 22:17

Thanks so much! Have you done one before @socialdilemmawhattodo ?

No! But have been watching for a while. Now have the time to offer.

KnottyAuty · 08/06/2025 22:22

socialdilemmawhattodo · 08/06/2025 22:21

No! But have been watching for a while. Now have the time to offer.

Lovely - I will pop a link over by PM. There are instructions at the start of the form and then as you go through. Might seem a bit daunting but it's fine! thanks

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GreenAllOver · 09/06/2025 07:50

In my hunt for the history of the mixed sex accommodation guidance, I’ve come across a document which I’d really like to read. It’s called “A guide to trans service users’ rights - transgender wellbeing and healthcare”. Could any internet sleuths help me find it? I did have links to each of the pages mentioned in this message, but they come out broken when I preview - can anyone techy tell me how to fix them? Or I can DM them, to anyone interested, maybe that will work.

The screenshot is from the GIRES website in 2008, so I had a look at the GIRES website for June 2006 - but although that has a section called ‘Department of Health literature project’ it’s blank. I’ve tried a few months before and after, and that section is still blank.

So I went a few years on, to 2008, and found a page on the GIRES website, which doesn’t have working links but does have four documents which are described as being prepared for the Dept of Health. I’m looking for the stripy one, called “A guide to trans service users’ rights - transgender wellbeing and healthcare”.

I also checked Feb 2009 on the GIRES website (list of Dept of Health publication, but its not on it). Nor is it mentioned on the Dept of Health gender identity page Dec 2008.

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