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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Policy Audit - working party - thread #2

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KnottyAuty · 25/04/2025 15:32

This is a thread about “keeping the receipts” on NHS Policies prior to the Supreme Court ruling on 16th April 2025.

Our working theory is that there were no single sex spaces for NHS Staff or Patients in the entire country before that date, having all been removed by stealth. We are aiming to prove this by auditing websites and policies for all the UK trusts and using the results to raise public awareness. As well as recording what has happened historically, the information will form a baseline so we can check which Trusts comply or defy the judgement in due course.

We are working around the country region by region. If you fancy getting involved in a bit of grassroots feminism then please do join in to help!? Each trust takes about an hour to research and you can upload online without giving any personal details away. Comment below and we can give you the link to an online survey - it changes for each region.

Thanks soooo much to all the vipers who have helped so far and @ Twoloons for doing a great job with the thread wrangling!

Here are the press articles we’ve managed to generate so far:

Scotland:
25th March: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/dTUhY
26th March: Scottish Daily Express
https://archive.is/kaLCB
26th March: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/iSD9m

London:
21st April: The Telegraph
https://archive.is/awGuz
23rd April: The Telegraph (in conjunction with another thread by NHS mumsnetters)
https://archive.is/1DO8d

Original thread #1 here:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5291237-nhs-policy-audit-working-party?page=1

NHS Policy Audit - working party | Mumsnet

Following on from Thread #23 of the Peggie v NHS Employment Tribunal. Anyone who wants to help with survey/audit of paperwork against the Equality Act...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5291237-nhs-policy-audit-working-party?page=1

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KnottyAuty · 04/06/2025 16:23

IDareSay · 04/06/2025 16:13

Top 3 comments so far...

That russian roulette quote was from me - but I'm slightly pleased they thought it was good enough to be Helen Joyce 😂

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SidewaysOtter · 04/06/2025 16:56

You're the headline! Bloody well done to the MN Terven involved in this, you're amazing women 😍

KnottyAuty · 04/06/2025 17:03

Here is the archive link: https://archive.ph/uMbDb

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Cantunseeit · 04/06/2025 17:04

👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌 brilliant work again @KnottyAuty

FarriersGirl · 04/06/2025 17:10

Absolutely bloody fantastic work - well done to Knotty and Two Loons and all the rest of us vipers.

Archive https://archive.is/uMbDb

GreenAllOver · 04/06/2025 17:14

It’s currently top headline! Great work @KnottyAuty and @TwoLoonsAndASprout !

KnottyAuty · 04/06/2025 17:32

Cantunseeit · 04/06/2025 17:04

👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌 brilliant work again @KnottyAuty

Gosh no - thank you and all the auditors!

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KnottyAuty · 04/06/2025 17:35

Had to post this for the record - front page! Well done

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334bu · 04/06/2025 17:46

Take a bow ladies. Fantastic work!!!!!!

EmilieDuChatelet · 04/06/2025 20:58

A Facebook post for The Times came up on my feed with this story. I just knew it had started with the work that this team had completed. A horrifying story and kudos to to you all for your persistence in getting to the facts of the matter.

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 04/06/2025 21:08

This is SO important - absolutely brilliant work!

KnottyAuty · 04/06/2025 21:49

Some tweets and retweets - no idea if this happened previously but images here for the record

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NHS Policy Audit - working party - thread #2
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teawamutu · 04/06/2025 21:58

Can't see the story in the app at the moment, but going via the link we're already up to 415 comments. That's a lot.

KnottyAuty · 04/06/2025 22:17

teawamutu · 04/06/2025 21:58

Can't see the story in the app at the moment, but going via the link we're already up to 415 comments. That's a lot.

Thanks - our Telegraph ones got 1300-2700 comments each before it was switched off. So there may be a way to go yet. I might buy tomorrow's paper copy to find out what page we appear on...

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/06/2025 22:22

The story's now off the front page and in the Health section so the rate of comments will slow down.

Sincere congratulations to everyone who's done all this important research - the headlines in the mainstream press that you're getting have been brilliant!

WithSilverBells · 04/06/2025 22:35

I had to laugh at Broadmoor forensic patients being referred to as 'service users'.

Faffertea · 04/06/2025 22:36

Can anyone help me with Calderdale please? Things IRL have gone a bit haywire and I don’t want to hold up completion of the NE but I haven’t got the time or the brain space at the minute.

Sorry wims.

WithSilverBells · 04/06/2025 23:09

Faffertea · 04/06/2025 22:36

Can anyone help me with Calderdale please? Things IRL have gone a bit haywire and I don’t want to hold up completion of the NE but I haven’t got the time or the brain space at the minute.

Sorry wims.

I can take it at the weekend, if no-one grabs it sooner

KnottyAuty · 04/06/2025 23:19

WithSilverBells · 04/06/2025 22:35

I had to laugh at Broadmoor forensic patients being referred to as 'service users'.

I totally missed that - my eyes were too busy popping all over the admissions flow charts - to help decide if someone had made genuine attempts to live in the opposite gender when deciding which ward … it seemed feasible that being able to produce a gas bill in a female name might be enough 😳

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WithSilverBells · 04/06/2025 23:26

KnottyAuty · 04/06/2025 23:19

I totally missed that - my eyes were too busy popping all over the admissions flow charts - to help decide if someone had made genuine attempts to live in the opposite gender when deciding which ward … it seemed feasible that being able to produce a gas bill in a female name might be enough 😳

Did you notice that one of your retweets was JKR herself?

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 05/06/2025 11:06

You are all

FUCKING SPECTACULAR!

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KnottyAuty · 05/06/2025 16:14

Also picked up by The Telegraph:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/04/mental-health-hospitals-male-criminals-self-identify-women/

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borntobequiet · 05/06/2025 16:15

KnottyAuty · 01/06/2025 20:06

Good grief!
Do they say how they will counter GC thinking?

Every bloody stupid argument we see all too often on here, I bet.

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