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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shirley-Anne Somerville 'firmly behind single sex spaces' - Scottish parliament

43 replies

ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 14:51

Gosh, Shirley-Anne. How you've changed.

https://www.scottishparliament.tv/meeting/meeting-of-the-parliament-february-25-2025?clip_start=14:34:18&clip_end=14:35:16

Great follow up question from Tess White.

'How many other NHS institutions are operating this unlawful policy'

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ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 14:54

(SA calling it the Equalities Act, ffs.)

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ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 14:57

Follow up from Carol Ann Mochan asking about single sex toilets for employees.

Another non-answer from SAS.

Rachel Hamilton with a question on public sector bodies complying with EA impact assessment.

This was the original question, btw, I should have put it in the OP:

Tess White S6T-02370 2. To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update on its role in ensuring that public bodies are meeting their legal obligations under the Equality Act 2010, following recent correspondence from the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

Some bloke with a question about ensuring trans people are comfortable.

SAS answers about women's rights. 😁

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Hoardasurass · 25/02/2025 14:57

Repeating the government's party line that misrepresents the equality act isn't going to save her job

ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 14:58

Ash Regan 'ridiculous working women have legally provided single sex spaces are open to anyone who IDs into them'.

Suggests upholding of PS duties should be a condition of funding.

SAS: Govt expects all public bodies to respect and comply with the law.

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ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 14:59

Douglas Ross asking about the EHRC response.

Calls for a gov statement on the issue.

SAS repeats, somewhat robotically, the same line.

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Lovelyview · 25/02/2025 16:42

Do you think the madness is ending?

IwantToRetire · 25/02/2025 17:51

SNP urged to clean up Sturgeon’s gender self-ID ‘mess’
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/24/snp-urged-clean-up-sturgeons-gender-mess/

Can be read at https://archive.is/4o4fL

INeedAPensieve · 25/02/2025 18:10

I hope the madness is ending here. I'm tired. Of it all. I just hope they get this madness out of schools next. Especially youth organisations with quite a number of dodgy ex staff and dubious intentions (looking at you LGBTYS).

I hope my captured friend I argued with about this is starting to wake up a bit. All the news stories have been pretty eye opening for a lot of my friends who have been texting me about it as they know already how I feel!

ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 18:42

In all honesty I think the madness is over.

What we are seeing is the people responsible for it trying very hard to dig themselves out of the very deep holes they've dug. So it's lag. All of the damage has to be undone.

It won't be easy. They will expose themselves as shallow liars, hypocrites, and fools with every further comment.

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Chersfrozenface · 25/02/2025 18:53

Good heavens, did Shirley-Ann Somerville really say "single sex spaces"?

That's more than Keir Bloody Starmer can do.

IwantToRetire · 25/02/2025 19:18

IwantToRetire · 25/02/2025 17:51

SNP urged to clean up Sturgeon’s gender self-ID ‘mess’
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/24/snp-urged-clean-up-sturgeons-gender-mess/

Can be read at https://archive.is/4o4fL

This article mentions a joint letter from various groups but cant find a copy. Does anyone know if it is public, ie online somewhere? Thanks

ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 20:08

Chersfrozenface · 25/02/2025 18:53

Good heavens, did Shirley-Ann Somerville really say "single sex spaces"?

That's more than Keir Bloody Starmer can do.

Yes, although don't forget the Scottish government have claimed that a GRC changes sex for all purposes. So it's meaningless until we get the Supreme Court decision.

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IwantToRetire · 25/02/2025 20:10

Maybe that is it. I somehow got the impression it was something recent.

Thanks

ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 20:11

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/secretive-snp-try-hush-up-34747726

Shockingly, MSPs attempted to get the live feed cut at one point today in an apparent effort to hide discussion of Alison Thewliss' appointment to Rape Crisis Scotland.

Thewliss of 'decapitate terfs ' fame.

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SternlyMatthews · 25/02/2025 20:27

IwantToRetire · 25/02/2025 20:10

Maybe that is it. I somehow got the impression it was something recent.

Thanks

there were at least 2 recent letters - MBM +Scottish Lesbians+ WWW + WRN -
https://x.com/mbmpolicy/status/1893594000675766349 (tweet with link to letter)
FWS also wrote https://forwomen.scot/21/02/2025/letter-to-first-minister/

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 25/02/2025 21:54

Shirley Anne Somerville. Firmly behind.

No need to go further than that.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 25/02/2025 21:55

Lovelyview · 25/02/2025 16:42

Do you think the madness is ending?

Sadly I think we still have a long way to go.

Many many people need to be deprogrammed.

Lovelyview · 25/02/2025 22:13

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 25/02/2025 21:55

Sadly I think we still have a long way to go.

Many many people need to be deprogrammed.

My 16yo ds has just informed me that jk rowling is a Holocaust denier. I don't even know where to start with the deprogramming on that one.

RedToothBrush · 25/02/2025 22:15

ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 18:42

In all honesty I think the madness is over.

What we are seeing is the people responsible for it trying very hard to dig themselves out of the very deep holes they've dug. So it's lag. All of the damage has to be undone.

It won't be easy. They will expose themselves as shallow liars, hypocrites, and fools with every further comment.

It's ending.

However even when we legally get single sex facilities we are going to have a problem still.

It's going to add an extra layer of thrill to a small group who already, by their own admission, were getting off on the idea of covertly using women's facilities without their knowledge women challenging them.

We are going to need some heavily publicised test cases when we do eventually have women's facilities - which are lead within the confines of NHS - as safeguarding issues that are reported by staff and their being actual consequences to voyeurism and consent being invalidated by deception.

borntobequiet · 25/02/2025 22:16

Lovelyview · 25/02/2025 22:13

My 16yo ds has just informed me that jk rowling is a Holocaust denier. I don't even know where to start with the deprogramming on that one.

Ask your DS what he actually knows about the Holocaust. I bet it’s not a lot.

littlbrowndog · 25/02/2025 22:18

I do think the general population of Scotland are more honest and intelligent than any serving Scottish mp or msp
Yet they are the polictians meant to serve us

but a lot of them seem dishonest and frankly stupid

RedToothBrush · 25/02/2025 22:20

ArabellaScott · 25/02/2025 20:11

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/secretive-snp-try-hush-up-34747726

Shockingly, MSPs attempted to get the live feed cut at one point today in an apparent effort to hide discussion of Alison Thewliss' appointment to Rape Crisis Scotland.

Thewliss of 'decapitate terfs ' fame.

Just close the entire service and start again from scratch with new people.

This is an appalling hire. It does precisely nothing to restore women's confidence in the service. Indeed it's actively laughing in the face of women and saying how much it hates them and wants to gaslight them.

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