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NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #11

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nauticant · 10/02/2025 23:21

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to continue for 2 weeks although at the start of the second week getting everything done in this time period was looking less certain. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse
Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2
Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3
Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4
Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5
Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6
Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7
Thread 8: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271511-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-8
Thread 9: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271596-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-9
Thread 10: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271723-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-10

OP posts:
Shortshriftandlethal · 11/02/2025 11:34

Personally find it better if most of us just follow on here.....too much disruption with so many people waiting to view live.

ArabellaScott · 11/02/2025 11:34

Back in, feedback, everyone's bloody cameras are on

Gallstoned · 11/02/2025 11:34

Omg what’s going on

L0bstersLass · 11/02/2025 11:34

I'm back in but there's loads of white noise.

Sarahbackinthesaddle · 11/02/2025 11:34

Ineedashero · 11/02/2025 11:33

is the crying baby a boy or girl assigned at birth or a non binary baby, a demi boy or what?

His sake now we getting a look at everyone

NotAGentleReminder · 11/02/2025 11:34

Are TT in the courtroom in person? Can anyone access their real time posts and update on here? (I'm not on twix rn)

lifeturnsonadime · 11/02/2025 11:34

someone else's front room. This is awful.

CheekySnake · 11/02/2025 11:34

Back in to someone's living room FFS

bumbledenbarsk · 11/02/2025 11:34

Still people woth cameras on

SallySnappy · 11/02/2025 11:34

Conference terminated

All I was getting was a really annoying man saying waiting for conference host to connect. Thank goodness for this thread.

Signalbox · 11/02/2025 11:34

Why are people so stupid.

bullclip · 11/02/2025 11:34

GiveMeSpanakopita · 11/02/2025 07:44

Just popping in to say thank you all for such intelligent and perspicaceous insights on these threads. I have been working my way through. Beyond Sandie's individual case, I feel that this case really signs a spotlight on the widespread institutional tendency on the part of the NHS to gaslight and isolate 'difficult' people, whether they be patients or staff. There's a closing of the ranks, and women suffer disproprtionately.

Also, I appreciate this is very much not the point of the thread, but I feel very sorry for Upton's wife. He's basically skinwalking her. Same hairstyle, same earrings and everything. She must be finding all of this incredibly difficult.

Yeah I spotted this as well in the photos, its so creepy and I dread to think what his wife must be going though. The whole thing is so grim.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/02/2025 11:34

Oh god, now everyone has everything on! 🤦

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 11/02/2025 11:34

Quickly placemarking.

teawamutu · 11/02/2025 11:34

WHY ARE THEY LETTING PEOPLE IN WITH CAMERAS ON

SelfPortraitWithHagstone · 11/02/2025 11:35

What the hell is the clerk doing?! It's not hard to turn everyone off...

DontStopMe · 11/02/2025 11:35

back in but seeing/hearing a random selection of people

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 11/02/2025 11:35

I'm back in at last but getting loads of noise that sounds like someone is running a bath. This is mad!

FriedGold32 · 11/02/2025 11:35

FFS Jane

oldwomanwhoruns · 11/02/2025 11:35

But sound still rubbish, picking up someone's house

Appalonia · 11/02/2025 11:35

I'm back but can only hear noise and see randoms!

L0bstersLass · 11/02/2025 11:35

Wow it's showing people's phone numbers.

NotAGentleReminder · 11/02/2025 11:35

Is the feed being sabotaged?

Manxexile · 11/02/2025 11:36

SidewaysOtter · 11/02/2025 11:33

I think we need to be v careful about mics and cameras - someone in the chat said they'd been unmuted without their knowledge? A man just appeared on camera too. I've got a post-it note sellotaped over my camera just in case!

There was one occasion last week where my mic was unmuted and it certainly wasn't me that had unmuted it!

Whenever I log into one of these sessions my mic is automatically unmuted - as far as I can tell - and I only need to turn my camera off.

It's not a good system

ArabellaScott · 11/02/2025 11:36

Someone swearing now.

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