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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #11

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nauticant · 10/02/2025 23:21

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to continue for 2 weeks although at the start of the second week getting everything done in this time period was looking less certain. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse
Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2
Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3
Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4
Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5
Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6
Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7
Thread 8: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271511-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-8
Thread 9: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271596-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-9
Thread 10: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271723-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-10

OP posts:
Appalonia · 11/02/2025 11:31

Oh God this chat function is turning into a car crash!

lifeturnsonadime · 11/02/2025 11:31

I can't see the tribunal any more just that random bloke.

RobinEllacotStrike · 11/02/2025 11:31

Its a problem at the courts end.

Every now and then a whole bunch of viewers mics are turned on, or a whole bunch of viewers are admitted with their mics on.

Gosh if this happened to me I could be in a lot of trougble - much swearing at the screen here.

I have to go out to the pharmacy and will miss the next 30 minutes - ug!

teawamutu · 11/02/2025 11:31

FFS can't someone boot the older guy with the telly on in the background.

Iamnotalemming · 11/02/2025 11:31

Dude get off the screen! Turn your TV off! Arghhhhhh

trudysquarewindow · 11/02/2025 11:31

The issues seem almost deliberate - they haven't had this problem any other day. WTF is this bloke we keep seeing and how is his camera overriding the main feed?

Sarahbackinthesaddle · 11/02/2025 11:31

Hope he's not about to do something weird

BunfightBetty · 11/02/2025 11:31

Same person making the noise and visible on screen. the clerk should nip it in the bud.

L0bstersLass · 11/02/2025 11:31

lifeturnsonadime · 11/02/2025 11:31

I can't see the tribunal any more just that random bloke.

With his telly on.

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 11/02/2025 11:31

WeeBisom · 11/02/2025 11:29

People seem to be having difficulty logging on in observer mode and having camera/mics turned off...

There are 100s of people and most of them have managed it. It's a deliberate attempt to shut down open justice in my opinion and the court could easily prevent it. Not rocket science.

AlexP24 · 11/02/2025 11:31

Frustrating - when we have group calls the clerk turns all mics off automatically. Makes one suspect foul play,

ArabellaScott · 11/02/2025 11:31

This bloke must be able to see he's on screen?

socialdilemmawhattodo · 11/02/2025 11:31

Scout2016 · 11/02/2025 11:25

I want NC to ask who else he kept notes on

Both nc and du have referred to colleagues in the plural. For the notes. There must be more...

musicalfrog · 11/02/2025 11:31

What a mess.

I've covered my camera with blutac just in case 😅

myplace · 11/02/2025 11:31

It’s all very well for amateurs to fail to use the system correctly. It’s not for the court team to fail to manage it.

Someone needs to tell the chap in glasses what to do.

Greyskybluesky · 11/02/2025 11:32

FGS this observer with his camera on is going to get us all kicked out

ArabellaScott · 11/02/2025 11:32

Shit.

CheekySnake · 11/02/2025 11:32

I just got kicked out

musicalfrog · 11/02/2025 11:32

Great now we're all chucked out?

HalfWomanHalfHobnob · 11/02/2025 11:32

Kicked out

Iamnotalemming · 11/02/2025 11:32

I've just been disconnected

Ineedashero · 11/02/2025 11:32

I'd be mortified if I got identified on camera. Its not his fault but the court will blame the viewers

ickky · 11/02/2025 11:32

It seems to be Tribunal room 4 that all the noise is coming from, it was the only one with the green mic showing.

BunfightBetty · 11/02/2025 11:32

At last, they've booted him.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/02/2025 11:32

Someone is screensharing...

And booted.

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