NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #11

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to continue for 2 weeks although at the start of the second week getting everything done in this time period was looking less certain. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse
Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2
Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3
Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4
Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5
Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6
Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7
Thread 8: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271511-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-8
Thread 9: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271596-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-9
Thread 10: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271723-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-10

Recording rudeness on his phone? Wot a loon!

Me me me

I'd try not to acknowledge his presence too, in case he started talking to me! I couldn't face these lectures when I'm at work!

NC: it's fairly trivial stuff isn't it

[breathy voice] Sandie didn't acknowledge my thanks

NC - it's trivial stuff, isn't it

BU - if a collg has a pattern, of ignoring you, if they're asked a qu in front of you and they don't even look at you, previous exp of them ignoring you

NC - neither Rihanna or SP thinks there was anything untoward about this interaction

I can't watch as I find it distressing

SP likely had to manage her MH

The phone link has stopped working for me. 🤨

Nearly 700 tuned in and 150 waiting to join. Numbers getting higher every day.

BU - I didn't make this up. I previously stated, it's reasonable when a collg has ignored you or doesn't acknowledge your presence, it's a pattern of behaviour, not unreasonable to assume this is a person who is standoffish, they are ignoring, not unreasonable to makeassumption this is them ignoring me

Is "collg" a typo?

The constant 'SO—' at the start of every reply is driving me absolutely crazy. Quite apart from all the other crazy, of course.

'assumed' is doing a lot of heavy lifting

No, abbreviation of 'colleague'

I'm back to WFTCHTJ, why can't I get back in?

100% Judges need to do the freedom programme.

That's lady speak innit? How us wimmen always start sentences.

Checking in...
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NC - you say SP refused to speak to you, Rihanna recalls a convo between you and SP?

BU - I suppose that appears to contradict it [his account]

Wall Of Sad is minus one today

First time I’ve been able to watch, and others have commented on it, but his (and JR’s) constant use of “the claimant” is really striking and clearly meant to be dehumanising.
Happily NC always refers to her as Sandie.

Assuming this arrogant tw*t doesn’t get struck off, and he should be, would any woman not object to being treated by him in future?
I wouldn’t even let him look at a cut on my finger!

Is it normal for HCPS to be suspended because they were slightly standoffish with unpleasant colleagues?

Yep they wall of sad is rapidly becoming a column.

If a Wall Of Sad diminishes does that make it more sad or less sad?