NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #11

[nauticant]

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to continue for 2 weeks although at the start of the second week getting everything done in this time period was looking less certain. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse
Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2
Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3
Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4
Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5
Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6
Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7
Thread 8: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271511-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-8
Thread 9: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271596-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-9
Thread 10: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271723-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-10

He nodded for yes, while he said 'no, I didn't fabricate...'

@nauticant not just transphobic hate, but ‘Phobotransphobic hate’.

It’s even worse.

Sociopath, then

NC - I suggest you made this up, you were frustrated you'd raised what you thought was a serious compliaint and nothing had happened. So you were driving the message home that something needs to be done

JR - what is it that's being alleged?

NC - flight to the plasterroom

BU - I didnt' fabricate this. I didn't allege anything done by C other than possibly notice me.

Yes @RedToothBrush 'Women are not permitted to refuse consent'.
NC is demonstrating his views are Not WORIADS in my view.

And there's a lot waiting - has there been some kind of sabotage effort?

That angry finger jab at the notes.

Wow - he couldn't give more male dominance vibes if he tried

10 minute break

Break thank god!

10 minute break

I am concerned that the judge’s handwritten notes will fail to capture the unreasonableness of what was said.

Wonder why he doesn't.

Is it because being trans automatically means you have to put up with more shit than you'd tolerate from a common or garden man?

Or that he's giving him enough rope knowing that journalists are there and will report on the batshit things he's saying?

I've got a phone appointment bang on 11 so I'm going to miss a lot of this thread. Will have to do a lot of catching up.

Why would you even bother alleging that someone had noticed you? What a melt.

Agreed.

When does this get tested in court? We need it.

Hilarious side-place of contempt from DU when passing the table.

Bugger; have to leave for a couple of hours.

Because it's part of the fantasy complete with notes so you can relive it later.

1st half of TT tweets

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1889239395309420638.html

The close-up to the camera as they were leaving gives viewers a good impression of how big and tall this guy is

Thank you Arabella for your contemporaneous reports - it's not easy, specially when you're listening to all this guff. You too need to take breaks away from the nonsense!

We need to limit individual head explosions!

Thats incredible ( but sadly not)

Is noticing him transphobia? But not looking at him is also transphobia? This is like an exasperating 'yeah but no but' argument with a teenager.

Absolutely. Controlled, manipulative, victim playing.

Sorry, can anyone catch me up about the plaster room incidents?

i thought I knew main points of the case , but incidents after Xmas day have escaped my attention.

ditto a ‘wave’ everyone mentioned on a previous thread.

And he looks unmistakeably male!! Those pics of him used in the press must have been filtered.