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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Victoria Smith on Start the Week bbc radio 4

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WarriorN · 10/02/2025 09:46

Was dipping in and out thinking, this sounds a fab listen; when is it going to spiral into queer stupidity, but it didn't.

Then I notice Victoria Smith was one of the guests Grin

I need to actually listen to it properly now!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbcradioo_fourfm?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

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WarriorN · 10/02/2025 09:54

Not currently available to listen to, will be later.

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LizzieSiddal · 10/02/2025 10:16

Thanks will have a listen.

Boutonnière · 10/02/2025 10:21

Listening now, just happened upon it - she’s being very clear and calmly explaining 👍🏻 The interviewer has an edge to her voice, though

WarriorN · 10/02/2025 10:25

And now woman's hour has a discussion around something to do with single sex spaces.

What's going on...

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Boutonnière · 10/02/2025 10:27

Boutonnière · 10/02/2025 10:21

Listening now, just happened upon it - she’s being very clear and calmly explaining 👍🏻 The interviewer has an edge to her voice, though

My mistake, was listening to Eleanor Frances on Woman’s Hour !

Boutonnière · 10/02/2025 10:29

WarriorN · 10/02/2025 10:25

And now woman's hour has a discussion around something to do with single sex spaces.

What's going on...

The embarrassment of riches confused me ! Eleanor Frances was a senior civil servant who had just received a settlement. Worth an ( unconfused !) listen

Davros · 10/02/2025 10:31

Oops, I didn't see this thread ignore the other one I just started

Abitofalark · 10/02/2025 13:30

Start the Week is repeated tonight at 9 till 9 45.

WarriorN · 10/02/2025 13:40

From 9am to 11 am as far as I can tell it was only women on air, and a fair percentage were women who openly understand what a woman is.

I hope that's going to become the trend and not just a tick box exercise "there, we've lumped them all onto a cold rainy morning in February, Tick bbc balance achieved."

Blink and you miss it springs to mind...

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WarriorN · 10/02/2025 14:35

The start the week discussion is really vital.

Especially when discussing the opinions of younger men right now. Tate etc

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WarriorN · 10/02/2025 14:48

I love the pregnant pause after the American woman says something about the 'rhetoric is "protect women from trans people"' (aka be kind to trans women) and they move swiftly onto Victoria and the issues of #BeKind 😆

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/02/2025 14:58

Thanks for these tipoffs, a good morning on R4.

Davros · 10/02/2025 19:29

VS's dinosaur T-shirt got a mention, especially in relation to the "be kind" etc t-shirts for girls 🤮

myplace · 10/02/2025 19:30

It was good.

Grammarnut · 12/02/2025 18:01

Interesting listen. I also loved the moment when Emilia Callaci says she is troubled by the message from the right: we must protect girls from...immigrants... from trans people...and that this weaponising against more vulnerable populations must be robustly fought against in feminism (sorry paraphrase). Almost an intake of breath and then the presenter hurriedly says 'lets move on' to Victoria Smith's book! Brilliant exposition of the different attitudes to trans ideology among some Democrat feminists to those among many UK feminists. Worth the listen for that alone! I wonder what they all talked about after the show.

Grammarnut · 12/02/2025 18:02

Boutonnière · 10/02/2025 10:21

Listening now, just happened upon it - she’s being very clear and calmly explaining 👍🏻 The interviewer has an edge to her voice, though

I think the interviewer had an edge to her voice because Emilia Callaci made it clear she thought transpeople more vulnerable than women - there is an audible gasp when she reveals this about 27 mins in.

Grammarnut · 12/02/2025 18:04

Davros · 10/02/2025 19:29

VS's dinosaur T-shirt got a mention, especially in relation to the "be kind" etc t-shirts for girls 🤮

Emilia Callaci did not understand the dinosaur's import.

Grammarnut · 12/02/2025 21:36

I know this is totally off topic, but where can I find a dinosaur sweatshirt/T-shirt?

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